Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-15 04:20 (#2TCC) Strikes me as a bit overpriced when an all-electric "bike" that you never need to pedal can be had for under $250. They work great for moving around all day long, such as huge warehouses, apartment complexes, campuses, or other sprawling job sites. Replacement batteries (every year) run as little as $30 on amazon. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-15 12:15 (#2TCJ) Holy crap, $800?? For the wheel? Before you add in a $300-$10,000 bike to go with it?They're kidding I hope. I need a new road bike and my budget is $600 tops. Probably go online (rhymes with schmikesdirect).And the range is a measley 30 miles, maybe? This is just dumb. (At 20 mph it's barely an hour of cycling!) No indication how long it takes to charge either. Maybe if it came with a fat rack or bottle mount battery pack for extended range.And again, the safety of someone riding a thin conventional road or MTB with power assist when they're not capable of or used to that speed, it sounds like disaster. But I guess the sensors appeal to new age would-be geek hipsters... Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-15 15:43 (#2TCQ) Just within your budget:http://www.amazon.com/XB-300-SLA-X-Treme-Electric-Mountain-Bicycle/dp/B00GRPAEH6/But I'd go for something even cheaper:http://www.amazon.com/Razor-E300S-Seated-Electric-Scooter/dp/B0085HM3VE/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-15 16:33 (#2TCR) Huh, I'm surprised Razor couldn't make a better looking scooter. But it seems that its range is only 10 miles, max 15 mph.Anyhow, as I said I'm looking for a bicycle, and have no need for boosting at present. :)Huh, a used Segway is still $3K-$6K. Crazy.Meanwhile, something like a "Honda Metropolitan" gas scooter looks better, carries more, MSRPs at $1,999, and has a range of about 140 miles at 117 mpg.And is maybe slightly less dorky than all these electric jalopies. Maybe. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 09:06 (#2TDJ) Different usage scenarios. The Razor scooter fits next to you on the train/subway and gets you the 10 blocks from the train station to your office without getting your suit/tie all sweaty. You're not supposed to be taking your razor scooter down the highway (and you'd like like a mad fool if you did).The Honda Metro doesn't go on the train. You take it all the way across town in traffic, at speeds approaching car speeds. They're not meant to be compared; they are for two totally different things. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-16 20:59 (#2TE3) Okay, I hear you, that distinction certainly makes sense. But I'm sorry, I'm over 15 years old and that Razor is too dorky even for me. An adult in business attire (or any attire really) would look absolutely ridiculous sitting on that thing. Even a "Rascal" is better.At least those motorized skateboards are kind of cool.But different strokes for different dorks I guess. :) Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 23:44 (#2TE8) I agree with you actually - the Razor might be convenient in some circumstances, but if you ride one you're going to get an ass-kicking reminiscent of the 4th grade, and for the same reason. Ya look like a dork! Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-15 12:15 (#2TCJ) Holy crap, $800?? For the wheel? Before you add in a $300-$10,000 bike to go with it?They're kidding I hope. I need a new road bike and my budget is $600 tops. Probably go online (rhymes with schmikesdirect).And the range is a measley 30 miles, maybe? This is just dumb. (At 20 mph it's barely an hour of cycling!) No indication how long it takes to charge either. Maybe if it came with a fat rack or bottle mount battery pack for extended range.And again, the safety of someone riding a thin conventional road or MTB with power assist when they're not capable of or used to that speed, it sounds like disaster. But I guess the sensors appeal to new age would-be geek hipsters... Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-15 15:43 (#2TCQ) Just within your budget:http://www.amazon.com/XB-300-SLA-X-Treme-Electric-Mountain-Bicycle/dp/B00GRPAEH6/But I'd go for something even cheaper:http://www.amazon.com/Razor-E300S-Seated-Electric-Scooter/dp/B0085HM3VE/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-15 16:33 (#2TCR) Huh, I'm surprised Razor couldn't make a better looking scooter. But it seems that its range is only 10 miles, max 15 mph.Anyhow, as I said I'm looking for a bicycle, and have no need for boosting at present. :)Huh, a used Segway is still $3K-$6K. Crazy.Meanwhile, something like a "Honda Metropolitan" gas scooter looks better, carries more, MSRPs at $1,999, and has a range of about 140 miles at 117 mpg.And is maybe slightly less dorky than all these electric jalopies. Maybe. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 09:06 (#2TDJ) Different usage scenarios. The Razor scooter fits next to you on the train/subway and gets you the 10 blocks from the train station to your office without getting your suit/tie all sweaty. You're not supposed to be taking your razor scooter down the highway (and you'd like like a mad fool if you did).The Honda Metro doesn't go on the train. You take it all the way across town in traffic, at speeds approaching car speeds. They're not meant to be compared; they are for two totally different things. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-16 20:59 (#2TE3) Okay, I hear you, that distinction certainly makes sense. But I'm sorry, I'm over 15 years old and that Razor is too dorky even for me. An adult in business attire (or any attire really) would look absolutely ridiculous sitting on that thing. Even a "Rascal" is better.At least those motorized skateboards are kind of cool.But different strokes for different dorks I guess. :) Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 23:44 (#2TE8) I agree with you actually - the Razor might be convenient in some circumstances, but if you ride one you're going to get an ass-kicking reminiscent of the 4th grade, and for the same reason. Ya look like a dork! Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-15 15:43 (#2TCQ) Just within your budget:http://www.amazon.com/XB-300-SLA-X-Treme-Electric-Mountain-Bicycle/dp/B00GRPAEH6/But I'd go for something even cheaper:http://www.amazon.com/Razor-E300S-Seated-Electric-Scooter/dp/B0085HM3VE/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-15 16:33 (#2TCR) Huh, I'm surprised Razor couldn't make a better looking scooter. But it seems that its range is only 10 miles, max 15 mph.Anyhow, as I said I'm looking for a bicycle, and have no need for boosting at present. :)Huh, a used Segway is still $3K-$6K. Crazy.Meanwhile, something like a "Honda Metropolitan" gas scooter looks better, carries more, MSRPs at $1,999, and has a range of about 140 miles at 117 mpg.And is maybe slightly less dorky than all these electric jalopies. Maybe. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 09:06 (#2TDJ) Different usage scenarios. The Razor scooter fits next to you on the train/subway and gets you the 10 blocks from the train station to your office without getting your suit/tie all sweaty. You're not supposed to be taking your razor scooter down the highway (and you'd like like a mad fool if you did).The Honda Metro doesn't go on the train. You take it all the way across town in traffic, at speeds approaching car speeds. They're not meant to be compared; they are for two totally different things. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-16 20:59 (#2TE3) Okay, I hear you, that distinction certainly makes sense. But I'm sorry, I'm over 15 years old and that Razor is too dorky even for me. An adult in business attire (or any attire really) would look absolutely ridiculous sitting on that thing. Even a "Rascal" is better.At least those motorized skateboards are kind of cool.But different strokes for different dorks I guess. :) Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 23:44 (#2TE8) I agree with you actually - the Razor might be convenient in some circumstances, but if you ride one you're going to get an ass-kicking reminiscent of the 4th grade, and for the same reason. Ya look like a dork! Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-15 16:33 (#2TCR) Huh, I'm surprised Razor couldn't make a better looking scooter. But it seems that its range is only 10 miles, max 15 mph.Anyhow, as I said I'm looking for a bicycle, and have no need for boosting at present. :)Huh, a used Segway is still $3K-$6K. Crazy.Meanwhile, something like a "Honda Metropolitan" gas scooter looks better, carries more, MSRPs at $1,999, and has a range of about 140 miles at 117 mpg.And is maybe slightly less dorky than all these electric jalopies. Maybe. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 09:06 (#2TDJ) Different usage scenarios. The Razor scooter fits next to you on the train/subway and gets you the 10 blocks from the train station to your office without getting your suit/tie all sweaty. You're not supposed to be taking your razor scooter down the highway (and you'd like like a mad fool if you did).The Honda Metro doesn't go on the train. You take it all the way across town in traffic, at speeds approaching car speeds. They're not meant to be compared; they are for two totally different things. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-16 20:59 (#2TE3) Okay, I hear you, that distinction certainly makes sense. But I'm sorry, I'm over 15 years old and that Razor is too dorky even for me. An adult in business attire (or any attire really) would look absolutely ridiculous sitting on that thing. Even a "Rascal" is better.At least those motorized skateboards are kind of cool.But different strokes for different dorks I guess. :) Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 23:44 (#2TE8) I agree with you actually - the Razor might be convenient in some circumstances, but if you ride one you're going to get an ass-kicking reminiscent of the 4th grade, and for the same reason. Ya look like a dork! Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 09:06 (#2TDJ) Different usage scenarios. The Razor scooter fits next to you on the train/subway and gets you the 10 blocks from the train station to your office without getting your suit/tie all sweaty. You're not supposed to be taking your razor scooter down the highway (and you'd like like a mad fool if you did).The Honda Metro doesn't go on the train. You take it all the way across town in traffic, at speeds approaching car speeds. They're not meant to be compared; they are for two totally different things. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-16 20:59 (#2TE3) Okay, I hear you, that distinction certainly makes sense. But I'm sorry, I'm over 15 years old and that Razor is too dorky even for me. An adult in business attire (or any attire really) would look absolutely ridiculous sitting on that thing. Even a "Rascal" is better.At least those motorized skateboards are kind of cool.But different strokes for different dorks I guess. :) Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 23:44 (#2TE8) I agree with you actually - the Razor might be convenient in some circumstances, but if you ride one you're going to get an ass-kicking reminiscent of the 4th grade, and for the same reason. Ya look like a dork! Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-16 20:59 (#2TE3) Okay, I hear you, that distinction certainly makes sense. But I'm sorry, I'm over 15 years old and that Razor is too dorky even for me. An adult in business attire (or any attire really) would look absolutely ridiculous sitting on that thing. Even a "Rascal" is better.At least those motorized skateboards are kind of cool.But different strokes for different dorks I guess. :) Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 23:44 (#2TE8) I agree with you actually - the Razor might be convenient in some circumstances, but if you ride one you're going to get an ass-kicking reminiscent of the 4th grade, and for the same reason. Ya look like a dork! Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-10-16 23:44 (#2TE8) I agree with you actually - the Razor might be convenient in some circumstances, but if you ride one you're going to get an ass-kicking reminiscent of the 4th grade, and for the same reason. Ya look like a dork! Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 04:13 (#2TEB) At least this model looks more like a bicycle and not a scooter with a stick up your butt.http://www.razor.com/products/electric-scooters/ecosmart-metro/ Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 09:22 (#2TEC) I'd go for the E300S, and just detach the seat immediately. Much smoother ride that way (standing), safer, easier to stow, etc. That "ecosmart" would have bars sticking up in your way to trip you even after removing the seat. Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-10-17 14:28 (#2TEM) Hmm, or $500 or so gets you one of these.http://www.wheelmanskateboard.com/http://www.kmart.com/mototec-wheelman-v2-50cc-gas-skateboard-silver/p-004V008701848000P Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.
Re: Electric bikes? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-10-17 15:24 (#2TEQ) Gas? Seriously? Sure to be noisy as hell and draw all kinds of attention you don't want, emit gas fumes wherever you store it, and not be allowed on trains/buses as a result.