It says more about the test than the cars (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-10-17 08:07 (#QRQF) Those manufacturers didn't cheat, they passed the test fair and square. It's just that the tests don't represent the conditions that people typically drive.On the other hand VW cheated Re: It says more about the test than the cars (Score: 1) by firstname.lastname@example.org on 2015-10-17 19:36 (#QT1Q) VW cheated, but on the plus side, it brought to attention the fact that almost everyone is missing the target. I'm not convinced though that every manufacturer that targets the American and European markets isn't well aware of the gaps between the tests and the requirements. It may not be cheating, but it's still gaming the system.The end result should be VW pays massive fines (at least as much as they got in profit from the cars they sold) and the rules/test fixed to close the gap that the other manufacturers are clearly exploiting. Re: It says more about the test than the cars (Score: 1) by email@example.com on 2015-10-17 20:06 (#QT37) The end result should be VW pays massive fines...Or, even better, convince VW and others to take plug in electrics more seriously and introduce their own models. Can't fail an emission test if you have zero emissions.