Comment WB Re: Devil and the deep blue sea

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Teen Girls Face Charges After Beating Video Shared Online

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Devil and the deep blue sea (Score: 5, Insightful)

by danieldvorkin@pipedot.org on 2014-03-30 20:07 (#W1)

Boys in this situation have no good choices. If they fight back, they'll be crucified for "hitting a girl." If they don't, they're wimps who got "beat up by a girl." The main difference between this and the unknown number of similar cases is that the girls were dumb enough to publicize it.

Re: Devil and the deep blue sea (Score: 3, Insightful)

by quadrox@pipedot.org on 2014-03-31 08:38 (#W6)

I realise that there is a lot of truth to what you are saying, but assuming that the boy has the physical ability to fight back, he could do two things:

1) Try to hold them off without actually hitting them.
2) Run away

Of course it depends on the exact situation - but there is a difference between being beaten up by two girls (implying helplessness), and two girls trying to beat up a boy - in the latter case the boy might still be hit/injured, but there is a slight difference.

Not sure what my point is.

Re: Devil and the deep blue sea (Score: 4, Informative)

by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-03-31 11:24 (#W9)

That's pretty much the same thing. If he touches them, even if it was just to block or restrain them, he's fighting a girl. If he runs away he's a wimp for not standing his ground. I don't know with all the gender equality if it's more acceptable in the younger generation for a boy to fight a girl than it was for my generation, but I remember a fight in junior high where I ran from a girl and was deemed a coward. It would have been an easy win for me, but I was *always* taught not to fight people smaller than me or girls. Personally I think what this boy did was right, he stood his ground and took the beating, which after seeing the video wasn't that bad. Just not fighting back was the best thing he could have done. Had they pulled a weapon on him, which I've seen happen, he'd be well within his rights to beat them to a pulp.

I live on a street behind a high school and see this exact same thing, and much worse, happen at least once a year. I have a security camera pointing to the end of my driveway because my trash had been vandalized so many times. The camera usually shows it being vandalized because someone's being pushed into it and the bags are used as projectiles.

I've seen fights between individual boys, groups of boys on one boy, individual girls, groups of girls on one other girl and, more rarely, groups of girls on one boy. When that happens it's usually a guy hanging around with his friends, smoking, playing hacky-sack, etc... and group of girls surround him, while the other guys just look on. Most of the time the guy does fights back and the fight takes less than a minute. It's almost like young girls have forgotten that boys have a physical advantage, by high school age. Maybe they're counting on that as some kind of a devious plot to get a couple bruise and have him suspended/expelled/arrested.

In some respects it funny to watch a bunch of thug girls think they can take on a boy and act tough until he starts swinging back, then they drop like flies and bawl their heads off. Unfortunately it's never funny to see the results of a serious fight. I have see a girl really badly beaten after pulled a knife on a boy. He spent a good ten minutes just kicking her in the head after she was knocked to the ground. I have a pretty good working relationship with the school administration because of the garbage issue and frequently hand over videos to them when a fight's gone too far.

Re: Devil and the deep blue sea (Score: 3, Informative)

by quadrox@pipedot.org on 2014-03-31 13:29 (#WB)

Ah, I didn't realize the video was available in the article (or at least parts of it). From what I can tell the boy did as I wrote, and he didn't really get beat up as such. Sure he got hurt, but he was clearly able to walk away with no trouble at all (note: I did not watch the entire video).

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