sure they're proud (Score: 2, Insightful) by email@example.com on 2015-08-02 18:21 (#G77S) I can understand Mozilla and crew feeling upset that Microsoft has done essentially what they did back in 2003 or so (and gotten punished for). And I can understand Microsoft feeling so proud of their new browser that they want to show it off. But it's a kind of dickish move on both sides.Microsoft got taken to the courts for changing or limiting browser preferences about ten years ago, and though the American DOJ had a sudden burst of gonadis-evaporitis when it came time to punish Microsoft for monopolist behavior, the European Union stuck it to them. This isn't that different, though the market has changed a bit.As for Mozilla, I'd feel more pity for them if Firefox weren't such a heaping pile of fail these days (and I should know, I'm posting from it). These recent innovations like force-installing Pocket and so on have made it pretty damned clear they're whoring themselves out for the money at the moment, and will install whatever you want them to if a hefty payout is attached to the request. Firefox is really testing my patience, and the fact that they're simply aping Chrome's interface is pretty damned telling, if you ask me.Currently pinning my hopes on Vivaldi, though Palemoon and Seahorse remain semi-usable. Given the importance of a decent browser these days, we need alternatives to Google and Webkit. Konqueror is all but abandoned, Opera (my former favorite) sucks donkey balls, Firefox needs a change of leadership and a new development team focused on technical - not financial - goals, and Safari: meh. Wish we had more vibrant competition in the browser space instead of a contest of how much each can mimic Chrome. The one thing I really do like about Firefox is the "Its all Text" and "Noscript" plugins, and the Overbite plugin since I'm a recent fan of gopherspace. But can't we have that plugin system without all the rest of the crap that Firefox now dooms you to? Re: sure they're proud (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-08-03 07:15 (#G8GN) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Ironhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comodo_DragonChrome varients Dragon and Iron. Re: sure they're proud (Score: 1) by firstname.lastname@example.org on 2015-08-03 19:49 (#GAM1) Looks interesting and thanks for the link, but Opera fit me like a glove from 2001 til about 2014. Then new management drove my favorite browser like the Costa Concordia along the Italian shoreline. Really looking forward to Vivaldi and just hoping FreeBSD's Linux emulation allows me to run it on FreeBSD, since that's my current OS.