Poll 2014-08-20 I'm reading Pipedot from:
Poll
I'm reading Pipedot from:
GMT - GMT+4
19 votes (39%)
GMT+5 - GMT+8
3 votes (6%)
GMT+9 - GMT+12
2 votes (4%)
GMT-1 - GMT-4
2 votes (4%)
GMT-5 - GMT-8
21 votes (43%)
GMT-9 - GMT-12
2 votes (4%)
Reply 27 comments

international dateline (Score: 5, Funny)

by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 11:31 (#3ZM)

To those of you reading Pipedot from the international dateline who are conflicted about whether to choose the GMT+12 or GMT-12 option, you'll get no sympathy from me because you are probably living in an island paradise and have too much free time on your hands!

Map (Score: 2, Informative)

by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 13:32 (#3ZN)

For what it's worth, here is a map, if you aren't sure: http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/

Re: Map (Score: 1)

by stderr@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 22:15 (#402)

Privacy Badger really doesn't like that link.

I'm a bit unsure what timezone you want me to pick. Your link says Denmark is "GMT+2", but if you ask date, you'll have to use TZ=GMT-2 date to get the correct output.

BTW: Have you considered sorting the options in a more logical order?

Could take a while (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-08-20 13:42 (#3ZP)

Given that half our users are probably asleep :)

Re: Could take a while (Score: 1)

by zocalo@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 14:27 (#3ZQ)

24 hours, perhaps? Actually probably a few days since there are probably readers who don't check Pipedot every day.

I'm a little surprised they didn't just geolocate the IPs of the posters and produced a graph from that, although it could be interesting to do compare the results of that with the results from the poll.

Re: Could take a while (Score: 1)

by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 14:35 (#3ZR)

There are probably other ways, but remember zafiro17 is a lowly editor, not a server admin :) And anyway, the honor system is probably more appropriate to a friendly bunch of techies than an invasive HTML trick. I happen to dislike webpages that request my location and refuse to grant it. If I visit Google to look up a question and they want to know my location, I feel like Google can just piss off - since my location doesn't affect either my question or the answer. (unless I'm googling for the closest brewpub or something).

Re: Could take a while (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-08-21 01:48 (#407)

It's much more fun to spoof a location.
You might cheer up the soul-crushed analytics guy by being the one person who ordered a pizza from Rothera Point.

Re: Could take a while (Score: 1)

by stderr@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 22:00 (#3ZY)

Geolocating doesn't work very well if people are using an IPv6-tunnel, VPN, Tor, ...

Location, location, location" (Score: 3, Funny)

by hartree@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 22:04 (#400)

" if people are using an IPv6-tunnel, VPN, Tor"

You may not know where it is, but it's still Mom's basement.

Re: Could take a while (Score: 4, Informative)

by stderr@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 22:19 (#403)

Instead of geolocating, why not check the "time zone" setting in our profile settings?

Don't you know? (Score: 1)

by kwerle@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 15:32 (#3ZT)

This is what google analytics is for.

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 1)

by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 15:57 (#3ZV)

But then only the admins know. It's cool when we as a community all have a sense of who we are and where we are. Like the good old BBS days.

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-08-20 18:37 (#3ZW)

BBS + Google Analytics + rounded corners = BBS 2.0?

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 4, Informative)

by bryan@pipedot.org on 2014-08-21 00:42 (#406)

Third party trackers, like Google Analytics, go against the Privacy Statement of this site and will never be seen here.

Of course, that applies more to the third party part than the analyze part. Some parts of pipecode, such as the recently added short code links, do record some statistics and are, in fact, using IP geolocation to plot where people are browsing from. For example, the short code for this poll is: http://pipedot.org/3ZH and it's statistic page is: http://pipedot.org/3ZH+

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-08-21 01:49 (#408)

How about piwik then?
For admin use only of course. With deidentified data.

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 2, Insightful)

by genkernel@pipedot.org on 2014-08-21 22:02 (#40E)

Third party trackers, like Google Analytics, go against the Privacy Statement of this site and will never be seen here.
Amazing!

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 1)

by vksr@pipedot.org on 2014-08-22 22:48 (#40Q)

I didn't know about the short codes or statistic pages. I continue to be impressed by the quality of this site.

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 1)

by stderr@pipedot.org on 2014-08-23 16:17 (#40T)

Are you sure the tracking works?

I'm pretty sure I have clicked on that short link, but Europe/Copenhagen isn't in the list.

Even if the click went over IPv6, the other end of my IPv6-tunnel is in Sweden, but I don't see Europe/Stockholm in the list either.

Re: Don't you know? (Score: 1)

by bryan@pipedot.org on 2014-08-24 02:04 (#412)

Although I tested both IPv4 and IPv6 geolocation lookups, my own IPv6 addresses merely report back "United States" and lack the normal City-level precision of the IPv4 records. Because I'm using MaxMind's GeoLite Free database, I believe that the IPv6 portion isn't nearly as complete as the IPv4 portion.

In time with Chicago: (Score: 1)

by hartree@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 22:00 (#3ZZ)

Does anybody really know what time it is?

Does anybody really care?

Re: In time with Chicago: (Score: 2, Funny)

by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 22:05 (#401)

I do! A … man … came … up … to … me … and … asked … me … what … the … time … was … that … was … on … my … watch!

When you write it the way they sing it, it looks kind of stupid, actually.

Re: In time with Chicago: (Score: 1)

by mrkaos@pipedot.org on 2014-08-21 12:04 (#409)

nevergonnagive.you.up.nevergonnalet.you.down<p>
When you write it the way he sings it it has exactly the same effect.

Ambiguity (Score: 1)

by fnj@pipedot.org on 2014-08-20 23:09 (#404)

I'm with a LOT of other people. I am currently under EDT, and the map and reality agree that I am -4 (until DST goes out of effect). But I answered -5. The full specification of my TZ ID is EST5EDT. Everybody thinks of it as 5 h behind Greenwich; hence conceptually it is 5 hr behind GMT or UTC "sort of" (i.e., the EST base spec is). I am OCD and perhaps overthink questions, but you are going to get other "wrong" votes. EST5EDT is a VERY popular TZ.

Re: Ambiguity (Score: 1)

by bryan@pipedot.org on 2014-08-21 00:30 (#405)

I prefer the "select a nearby city" method of selecting your timezone. The "GMT minus X" method is off by 1 hour for half the year. But if I select "America/Chicago", I know that I'll always get Central Time as defined by the current political tweaking. Those politicians seem to like to change when Daylight Saving Time starts a lot.
  • Eastern: America/New_York
  • Central: America/Chicago
  • Mountain: America/Denver
  • Pacific: America/Los_Angeles
  • British Time: Europe/London
  • Central Europe Time: Europe/Paris
  • Eastern Europe Time: Europe/Athens

Re: Ambiguity (Score: 1, Informative)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-08-22 15:11 (#40H)

You'd probably need to throw in a special "Arizona" to the list, considering it's one of the few states that understand DST is a pointless exercise and refuse to change the clocks.