Not the only choice (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-05-06 20:00 (#1EA) It's not the only choice you get. You also have the choice not to use Ubuntu. It's not as if there were no viable alternatives. Re: Not the only choice (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-05-07 02:42 (#1EN) Exactly. Given how easy it is nowadays to download a version of ubuntu that comes packaged with your favorite DE or WM, this isn't that big of an issue. They have chosen to remove customization because they don't want to support a feature they view as non-essential and possibly harmful to their interface, you can react to this by just opting to use a DE or WM that gives you power to customize it. Re: Not the only choice (Score: 1) by cykros@pipedot.org on 2014-05-07 14:25 (#1F1) Also worth noting, just in case we have some nooblings around here in the dark, is that you don't NEED to have a version of ubuntu packaged with another window manager/desktop environment to use one; it's as simple as "sudo apt-get install ". I almost appreciate Canonical being this locked down with their default environment, as given how much they've done to discourage people needing to learn a thing or two to use GNU/Linux at all, it's nice to see them now encouraging people to learn a thing or two because the defaults, while functional, get uncomfortable fairly quickly. And if you don't want to learn, well, you still have a working system and won't be running back to Windows because the learning curve was too high.Not as system I'll personally be using in the near future, but it does seem to have some pluses to it for its target userbase.
Re: Not the only choice (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-05-07 02:42 (#1EN) Exactly. Given how easy it is nowadays to download a version of ubuntu that comes packaged with your favorite DE or WM, this isn't that big of an issue. They have chosen to remove customization because they don't want to support a feature they view as non-essential and possibly harmful to their interface, you can react to this by just opting to use a DE or WM that gives you power to customize it. Re: Not the only choice (Score: 1) by cykros@pipedot.org on 2014-05-07 14:25 (#1F1) Also worth noting, just in case we have some nooblings around here in the dark, is that you don't NEED to have a version of ubuntu packaged with another window manager/desktop environment to use one; it's as simple as "sudo apt-get install ". I almost appreciate Canonical being this locked down with their default environment, as given how much they've done to discourage people needing to learn a thing or two to use GNU/Linux at all, it's nice to see them now encouraging people to learn a thing or two because the defaults, while functional, get uncomfortable fairly quickly. And if you don't want to learn, well, you still have a working system and won't be running back to Windows because the learning curve was too high.Not as system I'll personally be using in the near future, but it does seem to have some pluses to it for its target userbase.
Re: Not the only choice (Score: 1) by cykros@pipedot.org on 2014-05-07 14:25 (#1F1) Also worth noting, just in case we have some nooblings around here in the dark, is that you don't NEED to have a version of ubuntu packaged with another window manager/desktop environment to use one; it's as simple as "sudo apt-get install ". I almost appreciate Canonical being this locked down with their default environment, as given how much they've done to discourage people needing to learn a thing or two to use GNU/Linux at all, it's nice to see them now encouraging people to learn a thing or two because the defaults, while functional, get uncomfortable fairly quickly. And if you don't want to learn, well, you still have a working system and won't be running back to Windows because the learning curve was too high.Not as system I'll personally be using in the near future, but it does seem to have some pluses to it for its target userbase.