Unintended consequences (Score: 1) by fishybell@pipedot.org on 2016-09-22 15:31 (#1VMVM) The "home offices" being improvised on street corners with homeless and loiterers camped out on overturned newspaper stands around the cityThat sounds like exactly what they should be trying to do. It is very literally helping "break down the digital divide." If they didn't want people using the kiosk for the internet, then why did they ever turn them on to begin with?It sounds like what they really wanted was for the population of people who already have access to the internet, whether it be at their jobs, on their phones, at home, or at a neighbors, to get more access. Restricting access to people who can tether their device almost explicitly reinforces the "digital divide." Re: Unintended consequences (Score: 1) by kerrany@pipedot.org on 2016-09-22 19:12 (#1VNMS) It sounds more like they tried really hard to give everyone (who already has a device) free internet (within 10 meters of a kiosk), and expected everyone to behave in a rational, civilized, adult fashion where putting up tents and whacking off inside them is off limits in public. (What you do with that poor tent in the privacy of your home is up to you, though.) They got a rather rude awakening.I guess what ought to surprise us all is how many people already have devices like these.Another source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-15/building-a-smart-city-have-you-thought-about-porn-and-privacy Re: Unintended consequences (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2016-09-24 02:29 (#1VTEB) They clearly want people to use it (they could shut it off at a moment's notice), but they also don't want to bring the homeless problem out from the dark alleys and into the upscale public squares. Can't really blame them for that desire, but they are certainly at fault for designing big public systems without bothering to account for human factors, just like an architect failing to account for wind... They also don't want everyone to cancel their home internet and just use the public WiFi, which is a common problem that should have been addressed by time-limits, throttling, etc.
Re: Unintended consequences (Score: 1) by kerrany@pipedot.org on 2016-09-22 19:12 (#1VNMS) It sounds more like they tried really hard to give everyone (who already has a device) free internet (within 10 meters of a kiosk), and expected everyone to behave in a rational, civilized, adult fashion where putting up tents and whacking off inside them is off limits in public. (What you do with that poor tent in the privacy of your home is up to you, though.) They got a rather rude awakening.I guess what ought to surprise us all is how many people already have devices like these.Another source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-15/building-a-smart-city-have-you-thought-about-porn-and-privacy Re: Unintended consequences (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2016-09-24 02:29 (#1VTEB) They clearly want people to use it (they could shut it off at a moment's notice), but they also don't want to bring the homeless problem out from the dark alleys and into the upscale public squares. Can't really blame them for that desire, but they are certainly at fault for designing big public systems without bothering to account for human factors, just like an architect failing to account for wind... They also don't want everyone to cancel their home internet and just use the public WiFi, which is a common problem that should have been addressed by time-limits, throttling, etc.
Re: Unintended consequences (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2016-09-24 02:29 (#1VTEB) They clearly want people to use it (they could shut it off at a moment's notice), but they also don't want to bring the homeless problem out from the dark alleys and into the upscale public squares. Can't really blame them for that desire, but they are certainly at fault for designing big public systems without bothering to account for human factors, just like an architect failing to account for wind... They also don't want everyone to cancel their home internet and just use the public WiFi, which is a common problem that should have been addressed by time-limits, throttling, etc.