Contradiction (Score: 2, Interesting) by axsdenied@pipedot.org on 2014-09-08 14:24 (#2S5K) Interesting how more and more distros are adopting it but there is so much negativity and complaining wherever I look. Seems contradictory...Interesting read of the reasoning for the adoption by debian:https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-09-08 19:06 (#2S5S) I modded you up because that's a great link - very informative. I notice though that the argument consists of, for the moment, people talking past each other. That is, I don't see much in Debian's position statement that refutes what the anti-systemd crowd is putting forth as their argument.Can't wait to see how this plays out. I confess I am for the most part more swayed by the anti-systemd crowd's position, but I like transparency and simplicity in a system, and systemd decreases both. Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 01:05 (#2S66) You're right, I expected (much) more from Debian. It reads more or less as "we like it, it's popular, so nyeah". Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 07:23 (#2S6F) Beware that wikis are often written (and rewritten) by the people who like to write wikis to tell everyone else the way it is and should be. Don't take it as a policy statement, look to the wording and breakdown of results of the actual vote for that.
Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-09-08 19:06 (#2S5S) I modded you up because that's a great link - very informative. I notice though that the argument consists of, for the moment, people talking past each other. That is, I don't see much in Debian's position statement that refutes what the anti-systemd crowd is putting forth as their argument.Can't wait to see how this plays out. I confess I am for the most part more swayed by the anti-systemd crowd's position, but I like transparency and simplicity in a system, and systemd decreases both. Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 01:05 (#2S66) You're right, I expected (much) more from Debian. It reads more or less as "we like it, it's popular, so nyeah". Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 07:23 (#2S6F) Beware that wikis are often written (and rewritten) by the people who like to write wikis to tell everyone else the way it is and should be. Don't take it as a policy statement, look to the wording and breakdown of results of the actual vote for that.
Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 01:05 (#2S66) You're right, I expected (much) more from Debian. It reads more or less as "we like it, it's popular, so nyeah". Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 07:23 (#2S6F) Beware that wikis are often written (and rewritten) by the people who like to write wikis to tell everyone else the way it is and should be. Don't take it as a policy statement, look to the wording and breakdown of results of the actual vote for that.
Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 07:23 (#2S6F) Beware that wikis are often written (and rewritten) by the people who like to write wikis to tell everyone else the way it is and should be. Don't take it as a policy statement, look to the wording and breakdown of results of the actual vote for that.