FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1, Interesting) by engblom@pipedot.org on 2014-11-22 17:08 (#2V5W) FreeBSD was once solid and good. 4.x series was really stable and I never experienced any problems. Then they begun with way too big changes and there was not even one version I would not see problems and panics with.Already from this summery you can see the quality of FreeBSD. I bet they knew the Intel framebuffer did not work for 10.0. Still they shipped it. It is good they got that one working for 10.1, but I wonder what more they did break with this 10.1.Yes, feel free to mark me as a troll, but I am very disappointed at FreeBSD and this is my experience. Since then I have moved over to OpenBSD. C is an easy language to begin coding in but a super difficult language if you want good quality product. Very few OS has the discipline for that. Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 2, Insightful) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-11-23 21:20 (#2V72) I'm just glad they're putting any work into the console at all. syscons is really dated, sadly and this will set up FreeBSD for bigger and better. I'm seeing a HUGE surge in interest in the BSDs suddenly, and not just because of systemd (watch out, because the FreeBSD team isn't necessarily averse to something like systemd, although probably not systemd itself). I think all the recent cruftiness has led to some Linux fatigue: pulseaudio, btrfs, Gnome3, Wayland, Unity, endlessly-shifting APIs, etc. FreeBSD might be buggy in this edition but it's still pretty darned conservative by any Linux distro's standards, and that's not a bad thing at a time when suddenly many people are taking a renewed interest in alternatives to their favorite Linux distro. Who knows, maybe there will be some converts. Lord knows FreeBSD is a lot more approachable than the other BSDs. Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2014-11-25 16:22 (#2V9A) I was into FreeBSD before Linux. I'm still interested in its development, as its an alternative development to LInux. I think we're all better for having different operating systems exploring their own paths. I really only switched off FreeBSD, due to some performance issues it had running common FOSS applications due to its threading library.I think Linux is still very much ahead in os design. All of the "problems" that you listed, I think are actually quite good developments ( except Unity ). But I trust FreeBSD to come up with something cool, none-the-less. BSD's always do great stuff. Just not as fast to keep up with Linux. Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1) by tanuki64@pipedot.org on 2014-11-25 16:45 (#2V9C) All of the "problems" that you listed, I think are actually quite good developmentsI am not 100% sure of that. It could introduce "bottlenecks" into Linux. At the moment if I don't like Gnome3 or pulseaudio I just don't use them. I don't know if the current development leads in a direction, which might limit this choice in the future.
Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 2, Insightful) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-11-23 21:20 (#2V72) I'm just glad they're putting any work into the console at all. syscons is really dated, sadly and this will set up FreeBSD for bigger and better. I'm seeing a HUGE surge in interest in the BSDs suddenly, and not just because of systemd (watch out, because the FreeBSD team isn't necessarily averse to something like systemd, although probably not systemd itself). I think all the recent cruftiness has led to some Linux fatigue: pulseaudio, btrfs, Gnome3, Wayland, Unity, endlessly-shifting APIs, etc. FreeBSD might be buggy in this edition but it's still pretty darned conservative by any Linux distro's standards, and that's not a bad thing at a time when suddenly many people are taking a renewed interest in alternatives to their favorite Linux distro. Who knows, maybe there will be some converts. Lord knows FreeBSD is a lot more approachable than the other BSDs. Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2014-11-25 16:22 (#2V9A) I was into FreeBSD before Linux. I'm still interested in its development, as its an alternative development to LInux. I think we're all better for having different operating systems exploring their own paths. I really only switched off FreeBSD, due to some performance issues it had running common FOSS applications due to its threading library.I think Linux is still very much ahead in os design. All of the "problems" that you listed, I think are actually quite good developments ( except Unity ). But I trust FreeBSD to come up with something cool, none-the-less. BSD's always do great stuff. Just not as fast to keep up with Linux. Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1) by tanuki64@pipedot.org on 2014-11-25 16:45 (#2V9C) All of the "problems" that you listed, I think are actually quite good developmentsI am not 100% sure of that. It could introduce "bottlenecks" into Linux. At the moment if I don't like Gnome3 or pulseaudio I just don't use them. I don't know if the current development leads in a direction, which might limit this choice in the future.
Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2014-11-25 16:22 (#2V9A) I was into FreeBSD before Linux. I'm still interested in its development, as its an alternative development to LInux. I think we're all better for having different operating systems exploring their own paths. I really only switched off FreeBSD, due to some performance issues it had running common FOSS applications due to its threading library.I think Linux is still very much ahead in os design. All of the "problems" that you listed, I think are actually quite good developments ( except Unity ). But I trust FreeBSD to come up with something cool, none-the-less. BSD's always do great stuff. Just not as fast to keep up with Linux. Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1) by tanuki64@pipedot.org on 2014-11-25 16:45 (#2V9C) All of the "problems" that you listed, I think are actually quite good developmentsI am not 100% sure of that. It could introduce "bottlenecks" into Linux. At the moment if I don't like Gnome3 or pulseaudio I just don't use them. I don't know if the current development leads in a direction, which might limit this choice in the future.
Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1) by tanuki64@pipedot.org on 2014-11-25 16:45 (#2V9C) All of the "problems" that you listed, I think are actually quite good developmentsI am not 100% sure of that. It could introduce "bottlenecks" into Linux. At the moment if I don't like Gnome3 or pulseaudio I just don't use them. I don't know if the current development leads in a direction, which might limit this choice in the future.