One secret tip (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-11-29 10:47 (#2VC0) I always think that when I see that now ubiquitous WWW ad: "this one secret tip reduces belly fat." Never clicked on it because it's obviously a scam/ad campaign of some sort, but I half-expect to click on it only to find the secret is: "Eat less and get some exercise, fatass!" Re: One secret tip (Score: 1) by tanuki64@pipedot.org on 2014-11-29 12:43 (#2VC8) I never click an ad. But I am very interested in "fat research"... No, I am not fat. But this being not fat is not my accomplishment. I eat like crazy. My wife has to struggle with her weight and if I ate what she eats, I'd probably have starved years ago.I think the results in this article may be flawed, but also interesting. The interesting part (for me) is that they give an actualmechanism. Not just 'this compound burns your fat', but 'this compound turns white fat into brown fat' and brown fatis burned when it is cold. <--- simplified and ignored that this result was only received with mice. I'd be even more happy,when there was some hint how or why berberine is doing what it seems to do in mice.However, with what we know today, such a singular result can never be satisfying. We know by far not enough about the reasons of obesity. Come on... only ignorant people still believe in the simple formula: The fatties are too lazy and eat too much.Other results hinted that in some people a virus infection may play a role in body weight. Gut bacteria may play a role. Some experiments were able to show weight reduction by a gut bacteria transplant (*yuck*).But for me the best hint that there are still unknown mechanisms is the weight increase of lab animals.
Re: One secret tip (Score: 1) by tanuki64@pipedot.org on 2014-11-29 12:43 (#2VC8) I never click an ad. But I am very interested in "fat research"... No, I am not fat. But this being not fat is not my accomplishment. I eat like crazy. My wife has to struggle with her weight and if I ate what she eats, I'd probably have starved years ago.I think the results in this article may be flawed, but also interesting. The interesting part (for me) is that they give an actualmechanism. Not just 'this compound burns your fat', but 'this compound turns white fat into brown fat' and brown fatis burned when it is cold. <--- simplified and ignored that this result was only received with mice. I'd be even more happy,when there was some hint how or why berberine is doing what it seems to do in mice.However, with what we know today, such a singular result can never be satisfying. We know by far not enough about the reasons of obesity. Come on... only ignorant people still believe in the simple formula: The fatties are too lazy and eat too much.Other results hinted that in some people a virus infection may play a role in body weight. Gut bacteria may play a role. Some experiments were able to show weight reduction by a gut bacteria transplant (*yuck*).But for me the best hint that there are still unknown mechanisms is the weight increase of lab animals.