The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 2, Interesting) by mth@pipedot.org on 2015-02-01 05:06 (#2WVJ) The wine bottle with a plastic bladder sounds much like existing cardboard containers, except that it's a cillinder instead of a block. Maybe the shape helps break into the mid-price segment (the author who claims $15 wine is for "chugging" must live in a different world), but it's not a big step in my eyes.The beer bottle on the other hand, without the plastic bladder, is actually a step forward in terms of recycling: while cardboard and plastic can be recycled when separated, that is not possible or worthwhile when they are joined together, as far as I know. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 3, Interesting) by hyper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-01 06:44 (#2WVM) I was wondering which is more substanable, plastic coated cardboard or glass. How about an aluminium bladder in cardboard? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by reziac@pipedot.org on 2015-02-02 18:54 (#2WVZ) An article that contemplates this very issue:http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_green_lantern/2011/03/disoriented_in_the_dairy_aisle.html Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by hyper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:03 (#2WW7) Nice overview, but no answers. Thanks for the link. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:47 (#2WW8) Nice overview, but no answers.Actually, it answers the question:disposable plastic pouches > refillable plastic jugs > refillable glass > disposable plastic jugs > disposable paper cartons > disposable glassI admit, "aluminum" is missing from the list, but it would likely fall second to last.I only wonder why they don't freeze milk solid for shipping, so it can be stacked in its flimsy plastic jugs without requiring the added weight and support of milk crates. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-02-04 20:53 (#2WWS) Around here, milk comes in unrefrigerated cardboard cartons, and it has an unopened shelf life of months. No need to freeze it for shipping, just pile crates and crates onto a truck and take 'em. Why don't they have that kinda milk in the USA? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-02-05 15:05 (#2WX2) Oh, they do. Not nearly in the volume that they do in other countries. I HATE UHT milk, with a real passion. Its terrible taste and texture compared with fresh normal temperature pasteurized milk. If you think I'm just crazy, try making cheese out of UHT milk .. you can't the proteins are all messed up. It won't come together to make a solid curd.
Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 3, Interesting) by hyper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-01 06:44 (#2WVM) I was wondering which is more substanable, plastic coated cardboard or glass. How about an aluminium bladder in cardboard? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by reziac@pipedot.org on 2015-02-02 18:54 (#2WVZ) An article that contemplates this very issue:http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_green_lantern/2011/03/disoriented_in_the_dairy_aisle.html Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by hyper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:03 (#2WW7) Nice overview, but no answers. Thanks for the link. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:47 (#2WW8) Nice overview, but no answers.Actually, it answers the question:disposable plastic pouches > refillable plastic jugs > refillable glass > disposable plastic jugs > disposable paper cartons > disposable glassI admit, "aluminum" is missing from the list, but it would likely fall second to last.I only wonder why they don't freeze milk solid for shipping, so it can be stacked in its flimsy plastic jugs without requiring the added weight and support of milk crates. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-02-04 20:53 (#2WWS) Around here, milk comes in unrefrigerated cardboard cartons, and it has an unopened shelf life of months. No need to freeze it for shipping, just pile crates and crates onto a truck and take 'em. Why don't they have that kinda milk in the USA? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-02-05 15:05 (#2WX2) Oh, they do. Not nearly in the volume that they do in other countries. I HATE UHT milk, with a real passion. Its terrible taste and texture compared with fresh normal temperature pasteurized milk. If you think I'm just crazy, try making cheese out of UHT milk .. you can't the proteins are all messed up. It won't come together to make a solid curd.
Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by reziac@pipedot.org on 2015-02-02 18:54 (#2WVZ) An article that contemplates this very issue:http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_green_lantern/2011/03/disoriented_in_the_dairy_aisle.html Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by hyper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:03 (#2WW7) Nice overview, but no answers. Thanks for the link. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:47 (#2WW8) Nice overview, but no answers.Actually, it answers the question:disposable plastic pouches > refillable plastic jugs > refillable glass > disposable plastic jugs > disposable paper cartons > disposable glassI admit, "aluminum" is missing from the list, but it would likely fall second to last.I only wonder why they don't freeze milk solid for shipping, so it can be stacked in its flimsy plastic jugs without requiring the added weight and support of milk crates. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-02-04 20:53 (#2WWS) Around here, milk comes in unrefrigerated cardboard cartons, and it has an unopened shelf life of months. No need to freeze it for shipping, just pile crates and crates onto a truck and take 'em. Why don't they have that kinda milk in the USA? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-02-05 15:05 (#2WX2) Oh, they do. Not nearly in the volume that they do in other countries. I HATE UHT milk, with a real passion. Its terrible taste and texture compared with fresh normal temperature pasteurized milk. If you think I'm just crazy, try making cheese out of UHT milk .. you can't the proteins are all messed up. It won't come together to make a solid curd.
Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by hyper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:03 (#2WW7) Nice overview, but no answers. Thanks for the link. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:47 (#2WW8) Nice overview, but no answers.Actually, it answers the question:disposable plastic pouches > refillable plastic jugs > refillable glass > disposable plastic jugs > disposable paper cartons > disposable glassI admit, "aluminum" is missing from the list, but it would likely fall second to last.I only wonder why they don't freeze milk solid for shipping, so it can be stacked in its flimsy plastic jugs without requiring the added weight and support of milk crates. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-02-04 20:53 (#2WWS) Around here, milk comes in unrefrigerated cardboard cartons, and it has an unopened shelf life of months. No need to freeze it for shipping, just pile crates and crates onto a truck and take 'em. Why don't they have that kinda milk in the USA? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-02-05 15:05 (#2WX2) Oh, they do. Not nearly in the volume that they do in other countries. I HATE UHT milk, with a real passion. Its terrible taste and texture compared with fresh normal temperature pasteurized milk. If you think I'm just crazy, try making cheese out of UHT milk .. you can't the proteins are all messed up. It won't come together to make a solid curd.
Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-02-03 12:47 (#2WW8) Nice overview, but no answers.Actually, it answers the question:disposable plastic pouches > refillable plastic jugs > refillable glass > disposable plastic jugs > disposable paper cartons > disposable glassI admit, "aluminum" is missing from the list, but it would likely fall second to last.I only wonder why they don't freeze milk solid for shipping, so it can be stacked in its flimsy plastic jugs without requiring the added weight and support of milk crates. Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-02-04 20:53 (#2WWS) Around here, milk comes in unrefrigerated cardboard cartons, and it has an unopened shelf life of months. No need to freeze it for shipping, just pile crates and crates onto a truck and take 'em. Why don't they have that kinda milk in the USA? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-02-05 15:05 (#2WX2) Oh, they do. Not nearly in the volume that they do in other countries. I HATE UHT milk, with a real passion. Its terrible taste and texture compared with fresh normal temperature pasteurized milk. If you think I'm just crazy, try making cheese out of UHT milk .. you can't the proteins are all messed up. It won't come together to make a solid curd.
Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-02-04 20:53 (#2WWS) Around here, milk comes in unrefrigerated cardboard cartons, and it has an unopened shelf life of months. No need to freeze it for shipping, just pile crates and crates onto a truck and take 'em. Why don't they have that kinda milk in the USA? Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-02-05 15:05 (#2WX2) Oh, they do. Not nearly in the volume that they do in other countries. I HATE UHT milk, with a real passion. Its terrible taste and texture compared with fresh normal temperature pasteurized milk. If you think I'm just crazy, try making cheese out of UHT milk .. you can't the proteins are all messed up. It won't come together to make a solid curd.
Re: The beer bottle sounds more interesting (Score: 1) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-02-05 15:05 (#2WX2) Oh, they do. Not nearly in the volume that they do in other countries. I HATE UHT milk, with a real passion. Its terrible taste and texture compared with fresh normal temperature pasteurized milk. If you think I'm just crazy, try making cheese out of UHT milk .. you can't the proteins are all messed up. It won't come together to make a solid curd.