Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-22 08:41 (#2V5D) Though there's a first for everything, they ban people all the time from the debian mailing lists these days, even for anti-systemd talk. Its their way or no way.The libertarians that started the free software movement rolling are all gone now, what's left is only social justice warriors who do not take kindly to opposing viewpoints at all. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-22 15:08 (#2V5Q) In this case "Its" should have been "It's". C'mon people, it's not hard! Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-23 01:18 (#2V6A) fuck you cunt.I see the worthless geek-feminists have arrived. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-23 04:47 (#2V6M) If you don't like the mob rule approach wherein liberal group think wins out every time, then frankly, I'm not sure what your interest in Debian is in the first place. Sure, FOSS is full of freedom, and nobody is stopping this developer from having his game work on Debian, but at the same time, it's a bit silly to get upset because your cat won't go fetch a frisbee.Redhat is for corporations for whom software design is to be dictated by workday necessities, Debian (and to a lesser extent a good number of the other major distros, both derived from it and otherwise) for users who want to have everyone vote on what goes into their system (so that it's fair...or something), and Slackware/BSD/Gentoo for those who just want the basics packaged such that they can save some time assembling their system as they see fit, withsout worrying about whether or not some other fuckwits on the internet would approve.People have reasons for which one they pick, but I've seen a whole lot of people for whatever reason refusing to consider leaving Debian while at the same time raging about the way they do just about everything, as if they don't have other choices. When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns, but until then, it really just sounds like a lot of whining by people who can't be bothered to just grab down a FREE ISO image and install a system they actually like. Can't think of much of a more liberal attitude than that. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-04 04:36 (#488R) "When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns"That time has arrived.
Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-22 15:08 (#2V5Q) In this case "Its" should have been "It's". C'mon people, it's not hard! Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-23 01:18 (#2V6A) fuck you cunt.I see the worthless geek-feminists have arrived. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-23 04:47 (#2V6M) If you don't like the mob rule approach wherein liberal group think wins out every time, then frankly, I'm not sure what your interest in Debian is in the first place. Sure, FOSS is full of freedom, and nobody is stopping this developer from having his game work on Debian, but at the same time, it's a bit silly to get upset because your cat won't go fetch a frisbee.Redhat is for corporations for whom software design is to be dictated by workday necessities, Debian (and to a lesser extent a good number of the other major distros, both derived from it and otherwise) for users who want to have everyone vote on what goes into their system (so that it's fair...or something), and Slackware/BSD/Gentoo for those who just want the basics packaged such that they can save some time assembling their system as they see fit, withsout worrying about whether or not some other fuckwits on the internet would approve.People have reasons for which one they pick, but I've seen a whole lot of people for whatever reason refusing to consider leaving Debian while at the same time raging about the way they do just about everything, as if they don't have other choices. When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns, but until then, it really just sounds like a lot of whining by people who can't be bothered to just grab down a FREE ISO image and install a system they actually like. Can't think of much of a more liberal attitude than that. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-04 04:36 (#488R) "When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns"That time has arrived.
Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-23 01:18 (#2V6A) fuck you cunt.I see the worthless geek-feminists have arrived. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-23 04:47 (#2V6M) If you don't like the mob rule approach wherein liberal group think wins out every time, then frankly, I'm not sure what your interest in Debian is in the first place. Sure, FOSS is full of freedom, and nobody is stopping this developer from having his game work on Debian, but at the same time, it's a bit silly to get upset because your cat won't go fetch a frisbee.Redhat is for corporations for whom software design is to be dictated by workday necessities, Debian (and to a lesser extent a good number of the other major distros, both derived from it and otherwise) for users who want to have everyone vote on what goes into their system (so that it's fair...or something), and Slackware/BSD/Gentoo for those who just want the basics packaged such that they can save some time assembling their system as they see fit, withsout worrying about whether or not some other fuckwits on the internet would approve.People have reasons for which one they pick, but I've seen a whole lot of people for whatever reason refusing to consider leaving Debian while at the same time raging about the way they do just about everything, as if they don't have other choices. When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns, but until then, it really just sounds like a lot of whining by people who can't be bothered to just grab down a FREE ISO image and install a system they actually like. Can't think of much of a more liberal attitude than that. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-04 04:36 (#488R) "When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns"That time has arrived.
Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-23 04:47 (#2V6M) If you don't like the mob rule approach wherein liberal group think wins out every time, then frankly, I'm not sure what your interest in Debian is in the first place. Sure, FOSS is full of freedom, and nobody is stopping this developer from having his game work on Debian, but at the same time, it's a bit silly to get upset because your cat won't go fetch a frisbee.Redhat is for corporations for whom software design is to be dictated by workday necessities, Debian (and to a lesser extent a good number of the other major distros, both derived from it and otherwise) for users who want to have everyone vote on what goes into their system (so that it's fair...or something), and Slackware/BSD/Gentoo for those who just want the basics packaged such that they can save some time assembling their system as they see fit, withsout worrying about whether or not some other fuckwits on the internet would approve.People have reasons for which one they pick, but I've seen a whole lot of people for whatever reason refusing to consider leaving Debian while at the same time raging about the way they do just about everything, as if they don't have other choices. When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns, but until then, it really just sounds like a lot of whining by people who can't be bothered to just grab down a FREE ISO image and install a system they actually like. Can't think of much of a more liberal attitude than that. Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-04 04:36 (#488R) "When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns"That time has arrived.
Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-04 04:36 (#488R) "When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns"That time has arrived.