I don’t expect stone-cold truths from a chatshow, but Saoirse Ronan delivered one | Marina Hyde

The men on Graham Norton's sofa found self-defence a hoot. I'm sure most women have found ourselves in that conversation

In a development that absolutely must not catch on, something interesting has happened on a TV chatshow. What a precedent: I'm desperately hoping the entertainment industry rallies around to prevent it ever happening again. We can probably count on it. The dance of all chatshows these days is almost entirely mechanised. You go on. You do your rehearsed anecdotes. The news that the late Michael Parkinson is being relaunched as an AI barely raises an eyebrow because it's all so synthetic anyway.

Therefore the moments when it isn't take on outsize significance. As you may have guessed, we are talking about last Friday's episode of The Graham Norton Show, on which the Blitz star Saoirse Ronan appeared as a guest alongside Gladiator II actors Denzel Washington and Paul Mescal and Day of the Jackal leading man Eddie Redmayne. We join the sofa as Redmayne is doing an anecdote about how his Jackal preparation involved being trained in self-defence, in order to do what Team America would call his acting". (Not how Eddie put it, obviously. And yet, the reality.) Redmayne's revelation that he was shown how to use a phone as a weapon if attacked proves quite the hoot, with Mescal riffing on the absurdity - Who's actually going to do that, though?" - Norton chiming in, and Denzel laughing along. Ronan is trying to say something but she gets honked over, before managing to cut through with a line for the ages: That's what girls have to think about all the time".

Marina Hyde is a Guardian columnist

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