Where did the comments go? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-09 04:08 (#KVWG) >BTW: show me the part in the GPL that states that you must make the source code available to anyone?Please keep up. Read the above posts.Short story: If the GPLv2 is a license then we simply revoke spenglers permission to modify the linux source code. There's no 'no-revocation' clause. This is why the GPLv3 had to be drafted. Licenses arise from property law, read up on them. They are not a product of copyright law as all lay techies suppose.If you argue the GPLv2 is a contract, then, as you may note, the GPLv2 is not a fully integrated document (notice there's no integration clause?), then extrinsic evidence comes in to show that the rightsholders never intended source code of derivative works to be closed in this manner. Usage in trade and course of dealings of the party come in.If it matters, this case is distinguishable from RedHat etc as RedHat is simply failing to distribute binaries to anyone not contracting with them, whereas it does publish source code (and for a reason). Here Spengler wills to close the source code to a derivative work.And: if it matters: RedHat's approach has not been tested in court.You probably don't get to argue contract, as has been stated earlier, so a plaintiff just revokes the license and you're done with grsecurity: you want to close it, it will be closed, completely.You ever wonder why the FSF requires all copyrights to be assigned to them in their projects. Any one of the 10's of 1000s of linux contributors can be a plaintiff, they all have standing. Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-09 22:45 (#KZ3M) What above posts? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 13:29 (#M157) When I first saw this story pop up, there was 1 comment attached, but I couldn't view it regardless of the settings I had. I checked back in a couple hours and there were two comments I couldn't see. So I have no idea what those were or why I couldn't see them. Maybe they were auto detected as spam or something? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-10 15:42 (#M1M7) They were legal arguments about this case that the editor here doesn't want you to read.They show that spengler can be sued for his action and successfully.They also show that his license to modify the linux kernel can be rescinded.Ofcourse the editor here hasn't been through law school so it's all gibberish to him.The editor here also supports spengeler in his actions to close the stable patch of grsecurity.How do you feel about the editor keeping this knowlege from you, no matter what settings you change? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 19:00 (#M2AP) There's a bit of a difference between espousing legal theories, and flooding the comments with page after page of irrelevant and/or redundant ranting and raving. That, the occasional bouts of tourettes, and the threats of personal violence, weren't too good either.Anyone so inclined can change their preferences to show ALL hidden spam comments, but it's a mess.The incorrect comment count due to entries threads being hidden when the top comments is flagged as spam, has already been reported as a bug number 62. Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-28 06:46 (#NRWX) Perhaps we should have a toggle button on the page to 'show all' comments regardless of rating.
Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-09 22:45 (#KZ3M) What above posts? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 13:29 (#M157) When I first saw this story pop up, there was 1 comment attached, but I couldn't view it regardless of the settings I had. I checked back in a couple hours and there were two comments I couldn't see. So I have no idea what those were or why I couldn't see them. Maybe they were auto detected as spam or something? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-10 15:42 (#M1M7) They were legal arguments about this case that the editor here doesn't want you to read.They show that spengler can be sued for his action and successfully.They also show that his license to modify the linux kernel can be rescinded.Ofcourse the editor here hasn't been through law school so it's all gibberish to him.The editor here also supports spengeler in his actions to close the stable patch of grsecurity.How do you feel about the editor keeping this knowlege from you, no matter what settings you change? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 19:00 (#M2AP) There's a bit of a difference between espousing legal theories, and flooding the comments with page after page of irrelevant and/or redundant ranting and raving. That, the occasional bouts of tourettes, and the threats of personal violence, weren't too good either.Anyone so inclined can change their preferences to show ALL hidden spam comments, but it's a mess.The incorrect comment count due to entries threads being hidden when the top comments is flagged as spam, has already been reported as a bug number 62. Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-28 06:46 (#NRWX) Perhaps we should have a toggle button on the page to 'show all' comments regardless of rating.
Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 13:29 (#M157) When I first saw this story pop up, there was 1 comment attached, but I couldn't view it regardless of the settings I had. I checked back in a couple hours and there were two comments I couldn't see. So I have no idea what those were or why I couldn't see them. Maybe they were auto detected as spam or something? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-10 15:42 (#M1M7) They were legal arguments about this case that the editor here doesn't want you to read.They show that spengler can be sued for his action and successfully.They also show that his license to modify the linux kernel can be rescinded.Ofcourse the editor here hasn't been through law school so it's all gibberish to him.The editor here also supports spengeler in his actions to close the stable patch of grsecurity.How do you feel about the editor keeping this knowlege from you, no matter what settings you change? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 19:00 (#M2AP) There's a bit of a difference between espousing legal theories, and flooding the comments with page after page of irrelevant and/or redundant ranting and raving. That, the occasional bouts of tourettes, and the threats of personal violence, weren't too good either.Anyone so inclined can change their preferences to show ALL hidden spam comments, but it's a mess.The incorrect comment count due to entries threads being hidden when the top comments is flagged as spam, has already been reported as a bug number 62. Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-28 06:46 (#NRWX) Perhaps we should have a toggle button on the page to 'show all' comments regardless of rating.
Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-10 15:42 (#M1M7) They were legal arguments about this case that the editor here doesn't want you to read.They show that spengler can be sued for his action and successfully.They also show that his license to modify the linux kernel can be rescinded.Ofcourse the editor here hasn't been through law school so it's all gibberish to him.The editor here also supports spengeler in his actions to close the stable patch of grsecurity.How do you feel about the editor keeping this knowlege from you, no matter what settings you change? Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 19:00 (#M2AP) There's a bit of a difference between espousing legal theories, and flooding the comments with page after page of irrelevant and/or redundant ranting and raving. That, the occasional bouts of tourettes, and the threats of personal violence, weren't too good either.Anyone so inclined can change their preferences to show ALL hidden spam comments, but it's a mess.The incorrect comment count due to entries threads being hidden when the top comments is flagged as spam, has already been reported as a bug number 62. Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-28 06:46 (#NRWX) Perhaps we should have a toggle button on the page to 'show all' comments regardless of rating.
Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 2, Interesting) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-09-10 19:00 (#M2AP) There's a bit of a difference between espousing legal theories, and flooding the comments with page after page of irrelevant and/or redundant ranting and raving. That, the occasional bouts of tourettes, and the threats of personal violence, weren't too good either.Anyone so inclined can change their preferences to show ALL hidden spam comments, but it's a mess.The incorrect comment count due to entries threads being hidden when the top comments is flagged as spam, has already been reported as a bug number 62. Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-28 06:46 (#NRWX) Perhaps we should have a toggle button on the page to 'show all' comments regardless of rating.
Re: Where did the comments go? (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-09-28 06:46 (#NRWX) Perhaps we should have a toggle button on the page to 'show all' comments regardless of rating.