Bert and Ernie are a gay couple, says ex-'Sesame Street' writer

It's a question that's floated around forever: Are Bert and Ernie gay?

Former Sesame Street writer Mark Saltzman says yes.

In a recent Queerty interview, Saltzman (whose partner is Arnold "Arnie" Glassman) reveals that the Muppet duo were based on his own (gay) relationship:

Ok, so we have to address-that's the big question, right? In the writer's room, you're all adults. Were you thinking of Bert & Ernie as a gay couple? Did that question ever come up?

I remember one time that a column from The San Francisco Chronicle, a preschooler in the city turned to mom and asked "are Bert & Ernie lovers?" And that, coming from a preschooler was fun. And that got passed around, and everyone had their chuckle and went back to it. And I always felt that without a huge agenda, when I was writing Bert & Ernie, they were. I didn't have any other way to contextualize them. The other thing was, more than one person referred to Arnie & I as "Bert & Ernie."

That's telling.

Yeah, I was Ernie. I look more Bert-ish. And Arnie as a film editor-if you thought of Bert with a job in the world, wouldn't that be perfect? Bert with his paper clips and organization? And I was the jokester. So it was the Bert & Ernie relationship, and I was already with Arnie when I came to Sesame Street. So I don't think I'd know how else to write them, but as a loving couple. I wrote sketches"Arnie's OCD would create friction with how chaotic I was. And that's the Bert & Ernie dynamic.

The Sesame Workshop responded to the news, saying the pair are simple "best friends":https://twitter.com/SesameWorkshop/status/1042117602678587395

Frank Oz concurs:https://twitter.com/TheFrankOzJam/status/1042118820142436352Read: Are Bert & Ernie a couple? We finally have an answer"