"Rumors" claim OpenGL is deprecated... but nobody speaks of a real successor
by NoComment from LinuxQuestions.org on (#6NJ9M)
As a direct consequence of my last question regarding a non working VULKAN thing (meanwhile marked as 'solved') where a GPU crashes the system when starting a specific application:
I found several times statements of the (to be polite...) well 'matured' state of OpenGL, but at the same time I didn't find anything named a 'solid' and reliable successor and the same time I can find a lot of software and developers referring to the ('deprecated'...?!?) OpenGL...
This seems to me like the old sickness seen in Linux for a long time (don't misunderstand me - not the sickness of Linux, because it obviously is caused by hardware manufacturers) regarding specific driver support as a whole. I'm interested in digging deeper into the system, but for obvious reasons earning money has a clear priority and this currently eats up my time almost completely.
To make things short:
I simply want to know: Is there somebody 'deep enough' in this topic regarding OpenGL (and perhaps 'more current', but reliable alternatives, of course!) to be able to give some advice what to look for when searching for software, which uses graphics and needs hardware (GPU) support? To me this still is everything but a satisfactory solution in and a reasonable way gone by Linux distros.
As a user of (one or more) Linux distro(s), well, I do accept to act more self-responsible in this system and not with an electronic 'nanny' like Microsoft or Apple (which btw don't need customers, but without exception little wealthy children without own will, or rich demented mummies...), but ... Linux folks, as someone who needs an OS first and foremost to earn money and who simply refuses to run more than one OS on one (or even more) machine(s)... because each one has it's own specific workload. I cannot work with Linux on the knowledge level of a software developer, if that isn't my business. And from my point of view many distros seem to forget this small, but crucial fact more and more.
Either some distros begin to choose the "corporate way" (like Red Hat, Suse or Canonical and in some respect Flathub as well) striving for some kind of "supervised" and "paid" Linux, but - apart from that - don't go a much different way than Microsoft. Or... other distros - like Debian - seem to 'sit' on partly ancient solutions waiting for... what? Nobody knows. Unfortunately (?) software companies want to 'follow the path of development and technological progress' (since hardware simply goes the same way since tens of years - without a real surprise...) and - for obvious reasons - grab each visible opportunity to step ahead (even though it might be known as not really reliable).
But... folks, this 'policy' will kill the "free (=community-driven) Linux" completely over time, because again: As user one is in need of software, which runs smoothly on (at least halfway...) current and up2date hardware. Thus what should I - in your eyes - be prepared for? I dislike Microsoft, but actually I dislike "supervised" OS's, which make me the marionette sitting in front of a PC (which btw becomes clearly especially more and more the idea of Canonical). Though making money is essential and before I end up with an only partly supported PC I will bite the bullet and return to Microsoft.
Because... to be honest: This "war of drivers" can be seen in a quite similar way for audio support, where pipewire is known to be told by some people a "future", but on the other hand comes with several flaws and inconsistencies and ... is clearly dis-recommended by JACK-supporters (which by itself on the other hand also is slightly 'off-time' - but obviously less than the mentioned graphics story).
What is your experience, what your expectation and ... for those long in the matter of Linux... is this only my "personally limited" impression, or is there something... not so pleasant ongoing and on the way?
I found several times statements of the (to be polite...) well 'matured' state of OpenGL, but at the same time I didn't find anything named a 'solid' and reliable successor and the same time I can find a lot of software and developers referring to the ('deprecated'...?!?) OpenGL...
This seems to me like the old sickness seen in Linux for a long time (don't misunderstand me - not the sickness of Linux, because it obviously is caused by hardware manufacturers) regarding specific driver support as a whole. I'm interested in digging deeper into the system, but for obvious reasons earning money has a clear priority and this currently eats up my time almost completely.
To make things short:
I simply want to know: Is there somebody 'deep enough' in this topic regarding OpenGL (and perhaps 'more current', but reliable alternatives, of course!) to be able to give some advice what to look for when searching for software, which uses graphics and needs hardware (GPU) support? To me this still is everything but a satisfactory solution in and a reasonable way gone by Linux distros.
As a user of (one or more) Linux distro(s), well, I do accept to act more self-responsible in this system and not with an electronic 'nanny' like Microsoft or Apple (which btw don't need customers, but without exception little wealthy children without own will, or rich demented mummies...), but ... Linux folks, as someone who needs an OS first and foremost to earn money and who simply refuses to run more than one OS on one (or even more) machine(s)... because each one has it's own specific workload. I cannot work with Linux on the knowledge level of a software developer, if that isn't my business. And from my point of view many distros seem to forget this small, but crucial fact more and more.
Either some distros begin to choose the "corporate way" (like Red Hat, Suse or Canonical and in some respect Flathub as well) striving for some kind of "supervised" and "paid" Linux, but - apart from that - don't go a much different way than Microsoft. Or... other distros - like Debian - seem to 'sit' on partly ancient solutions waiting for... what? Nobody knows. Unfortunately (?) software companies want to 'follow the path of development and technological progress' (since hardware simply goes the same way since tens of years - without a real surprise...) and - for obvious reasons - grab each visible opportunity to step ahead (even though it might be known as not really reliable).
But... folks, this 'policy' will kill the "free (=community-driven) Linux" completely over time, because again: As user one is in need of software, which runs smoothly on (at least halfway...) current and up2date hardware. Thus what should I - in your eyes - be prepared for? I dislike Microsoft, but actually I dislike "supervised" OS's, which make me the marionette sitting in front of a PC (which btw becomes clearly especially more and more the idea of Canonical). Though making money is essential and before I end up with an only partly supported PC I will bite the bullet and return to Microsoft.
Because... to be honest: This "war of drivers" can be seen in a quite similar way for audio support, where pipewire is known to be told by some people a "future", but on the other hand comes with several flaws and inconsistencies and ... is clearly dis-recommended by JACK-supporters (which by itself on the other hand also is slightly 'off-time' - but obviously less than the mentioned graphics story).
What is your experience, what your expectation and ... for those long in the matter of Linux... is this only my "personally limited" impression, or is there something... not so pleasant ongoing and on the way?