‘Saying Trump is dangerous is not enough’: Bernie Sanders on Biden, billionaires – and why the Democrats failed

The senator and twice Democratic presidential hopeful is on tour with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez trying to build a new progressive movement. He reveals why he thinks Republicans are scared to speak up and what went wrong for Kamala Harris in 2024

I think what Trumpism is about, is an understanding that the system in America is not working for working-class people," says Bernie Sanders, sat in the Guardian's offices in London. In a phoney, hypocritical way, Trump has tapped into that. His quote-unquote solutions' will only make a bad situation worse."

In person, Sanders' 83 years read differently than in photograph, perhaps because of how conversational he is. His voice is magnetic - a Brooklyn accent that feels both warm and tough. But what I have been aware of, and I've talked about it for years, is that in America, the very richest people are doing phenomenally well, while 60% of our people live paycheck to paycheck."