Contradiction (Score: 2, Interesting) by axsdenied@pipedot.org on 2014-09-08 14:24 (#2S5K) Interesting how more and more distros are adopting it but there is so much negativity and complaining wherever I look. Seems contradictory...Interesting read of the reasoning for the adoption by debian:https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-09-08 19:06 (#2S5S) I modded you up because that's a great link - very informative. I notice though that the argument consists of, for the moment, people talking past each other. That is, I don't see much in Debian's position statement that refutes what the anti-systemd crowd is putting forth as their argument.Can't wait to see how this plays out. I confess I am for the most part more swayed by the anti-systemd crowd's position, but I like transparency and simplicity in a system, and systemd decreases both. Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 01:05 (#2S66) You're right, I expected (much) more from Debian. It reads more or less as "we like it, it's popular, so nyeah". Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by axsdenied@pipedot.org on 2014-09-09 05:07 (#2S6B) Same thinking here. But it may be that they are "forced" into accepting it. For example GNOME 3.8 depends on systemd.It will be interesting to see if/how long Slackware/Gentoo/etc hold on from the adoption...
Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by zafiro17@pipedot.org on 2014-09-08 19:06 (#2S5S) I modded you up because that's a great link - very informative. I notice though that the argument consists of, for the moment, people talking past each other. That is, I don't see much in Debian's position statement that refutes what the anti-systemd crowd is putting forth as their argument.Can't wait to see how this plays out. I confess I am for the most part more swayed by the anti-systemd crowd's position, but I like transparency and simplicity in a system, and systemd decreases both. Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 01:05 (#2S66) You're right, I expected (much) more from Debian. It reads more or less as "we like it, it's popular, so nyeah". Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by axsdenied@pipedot.org on 2014-09-09 05:07 (#2S6B) Same thinking here. But it may be that they are "forced" into accepting it. For example GNOME 3.8 depends on systemd.It will be interesting to see if/how long Slackware/Gentoo/etc hold on from the adoption...
Re: Contradiction (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 01:05 (#2S66) You're right, I expected (much) more from Debian. It reads more or less as "we like it, it's popular, so nyeah". Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by axsdenied@pipedot.org on 2014-09-09 05:07 (#2S6B) Same thinking here. But it may be that they are "forced" into accepting it. For example GNOME 3.8 depends on systemd.It will be interesting to see if/how long Slackware/Gentoo/etc hold on from the adoption...
Re: Contradiction (Score: 1) by axsdenied@pipedot.org on 2014-09-09 05:07 (#2S6B) Same thinking here. But it may be that they are "forced" into accepting it. For example GNOME 3.8 depends on systemd.It will be interesting to see if/how long Slackware/Gentoo/etc hold on from the adoption...