Discourage investment? (Score: 1) by fadrian@pipedot.org on 2014-12-19 15:05 (#2W51) Isn't "discourage investment" one of those buzzwords that people throw around to scare others like "terrorism"? I mean has anyone ever seen a "discouraged investor" moping about and not investing elsewhere after someone decided to sue some other company. Let's get this straight, Verizon and ATT - the only investment this might discourage is in your stock. Thats says nothing about what this move would do to "investment" as whole, either nationally or globally. Are people actually so stupid that they'd swallow this verbal crap? Seriously? Re: Discourage investment? (Score: 1) by moveonover@pipedot.org on 2014-12-19 15:11 (#2W52) I think they probably mean that it would discourage investment BY VERIZON into building out their network, since they would be forced to let other companies use the infrastructure that they invested in building. Re: Discourage investment? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-12-21 18:45 (#2W7Y) That's the implication... It's a veiled threat to sabotage their own customers, out of spite. Verizon has bandied the same argument about with in the net neutrality debates regarding both their cellular and FIOS networks. With FIOS it might sting the affected customers a bit, but would really just deliver more subscribers into the hands of cable companies, hurting Verizon even more. But with cellular, it's a particularly ridiculous claim, as they've recently been losing large numbers of customers to T-Mobile/Sprint, and have been forced to reluctantly cut their prices to reduce the churn. Failing to maintain their network would lose them even more customers, and require many further price cuts to maintain their position.
Re: Discourage investment? (Score: 1) by moveonover@pipedot.org on 2014-12-19 15:11 (#2W52) I think they probably mean that it would discourage investment BY VERIZON into building out their network, since they would be forced to let other companies use the infrastructure that they invested in building. Re: Discourage investment? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-12-21 18:45 (#2W7Y) That's the implication... It's a veiled threat to sabotage their own customers, out of spite. Verizon has bandied the same argument about with in the net neutrality debates regarding both their cellular and FIOS networks. With FIOS it might sting the affected customers a bit, but would really just deliver more subscribers into the hands of cable companies, hurting Verizon even more. But with cellular, it's a particularly ridiculous claim, as they've recently been losing large numbers of customers to T-Mobile/Sprint, and have been forced to reluctantly cut their prices to reduce the churn. Failing to maintain their network would lose them even more customers, and require many further price cuts to maintain their position.
Re: Discourage investment? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2014-12-21 18:45 (#2W7Y) That's the implication... It's a veiled threat to sabotage their own customers, out of spite. Verizon has bandied the same argument about with in the net neutrality debates regarding both their cellular and FIOS networks. With FIOS it might sting the affected customers a bit, but would really just deliver more subscribers into the hands of cable companies, hurting Verizon even more. But with cellular, it's a particularly ridiculous claim, as they've recently been losing large numbers of customers to T-Mobile/Sprint, and have been forced to reluctantly cut their prices to reduce the churn. Failing to maintain their network would lose them even more customers, and require many further price cuts to maintain their position.