Misleading summary (Score: 1) by axsdenied@pipedot.org on 2014-10-31 12:47 (#2TTJ) Two things in the summary are misleading:1. I want to know where $100 to $200 figure came from? It is not in the linked article and, as far as I know, no cost estimates have been released yet.And it definitely sounds WAY TOO HIGH. Does it mean my Internet bill will go from $50 to $250???2. "The data will be used for copyright enforcement and to track the exact location of mobile phone users."This is VERY MISLEADING as it sounds that the main goal is copyright enforcement. The data retention is part of anti-terrorism legislation and it will be used for a variety of investigations (counterterrorism, organised crime, counter-espionage and cyber security). Yes, copyright enforcement also gets mentioned but I don't think it is not the main goal.Having said that, I completely disagree with the proposed laws as they are more than open for abuse. Even "metadata" has not been defined yet.And I agree with Tanuki64's comment how such laws are inevitable. The whole world is slowly turning into a police state. Unfortunately resistance is futile :-( Re: Misleading summary (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-01 10:19 (#2TVD) The figure came from iinet. Next time google it before getting upset. http://www.businessinsider.com.au/australian-data-retention-plan-will-cost-consumers-130-year-says-iinet-2014-8Australian consumers could be paying more than $10 a month extra - $130 a year - just for internet access under the Government's data retention plan, announced yesterday by Prime Minister Tony Abbott, as part of new counter-terrorism laws.Modelling by Australia's second biggest internet service provider, iiNet, on the expense of retaining metadata for two years will cost the company an additional $130 million a year - $10 million for electricity alone - which will be passed on to consumers. Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-01 14:15 (#2TVN) How did you get from $130 to $100 to $200? Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 01:58 (#432M) From the information available at the time. $100 to $200 a year is the range for how much extra it could cost consumers. Now they are estimating up to $10 depending on how much the estimate blows out. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/revealed-the-true-cost-of-metadata-retention-20150302-13sdk5.html Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 09:48 (#43Q6) $10 per month per account could add up.$10 for internet. $10 for mobile phone. $10 for home phone. Perhaps it will be $10 for one account if the account bundles internet, mobile and home phone.What about if a household has multiple phones? $10 per mobile?Wait until a month after this comes down and everyone realises they are being taxed $10 per account. Let the screaming begin.
Re: Misleading summary (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-01 10:19 (#2TVD) The figure came from iinet. Next time google it before getting upset. http://www.businessinsider.com.au/australian-data-retention-plan-will-cost-consumers-130-year-says-iinet-2014-8Australian consumers could be paying more than $10 a month extra - $130 a year - just for internet access under the Government's data retention plan, announced yesterday by Prime Minister Tony Abbott, as part of new counter-terrorism laws.Modelling by Australia's second biggest internet service provider, iiNet, on the expense of retaining metadata for two years will cost the company an additional $130 million a year - $10 million for electricity alone - which will be passed on to consumers. Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-01 14:15 (#2TVN) How did you get from $130 to $100 to $200? Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 01:58 (#432M) From the information available at the time. $100 to $200 a year is the range for how much extra it could cost consumers. Now they are estimating up to $10 depending on how much the estimate blows out. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/revealed-the-true-cost-of-metadata-retention-20150302-13sdk5.html Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 09:48 (#43Q6) $10 per month per account could add up.$10 for internet. $10 for mobile phone. $10 for home phone. Perhaps it will be $10 for one account if the account bundles internet, mobile and home phone.What about if a household has multiple phones? $10 per mobile?Wait until a month after this comes down and everyone realises they are being taxed $10 per account. Let the screaming begin.
Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-11-01 14:15 (#2TVN) How did you get from $130 to $100 to $200? Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 01:58 (#432M) From the information available at the time. $100 to $200 a year is the range for how much extra it could cost consumers. Now they are estimating up to $10 depending on how much the estimate blows out. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/revealed-the-true-cost-of-metadata-retention-20150302-13sdk5.html Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 09:48 (#43Q6) $10 per month per account could add up.$10 for internet. $10 for mobile phone. $10 for home phone. Perhaps it will be $10 for one account if the account bundles internet, mobile and home phone.What about if a household has multiple phones? $10 per mobile?Wait until a month after this comes down and everyone realises they are being taxed $10 per account. Let the screaming begin.
Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 01:58 (#432M) From the information available at the time. $100 to $200 a year is the range for how much extra it could cost consumers. Now they are estimating up to $10 depending on how much the estimate blows out. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/revealed-the-true-cost-of-metadata-retention-20150302-13sdk5.html Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 09:48 (#43Q6) $10 per month per account could add up.$10 for internet. $10 for mobile phone. $10 for home phone. Perhaps it will be $10 for one account if the account bundles internet, mobile and home phone.What about if a household has multiple phones? $10 per mobile?Wait until a month after this comes down and everyone realises they are being taxed $10 per account. Let the screaming begin.
Re: Misleading summary (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-03-02 09:48 (#43Q6) $10 per month per account could add up.$10 for internet. $10 for mobile phone. $10 for home phone. Perhaps it will be $10 for one account if the account bundles internet, mobile and home phone.What about if a household has multiple phones? $10 per mobile?Wait until a month after this comes down and everyone realises they are being taxed $10 per account. Let the screaming begin.