I don't get it (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-10-08 05:47 (#PTH6) Is he a sociopath or not? Is this just good for business, or does he genuinely feel this way? Re: I don't get it (Score: 3, Insightful) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-10-08 06:12 (#PTJP) I'd assume it's just "good for business"... Apple put-in encryption features AFTER the public outcry of the Snowden/NSA domestic spying revelations (Apple was well-aware, but there was no public outrage yet) and privacy-centric and/or non-US businesses were gaining customers at others expense. Apple likes to loudly tout how iMessage is safe from spying & subpoenas, despite the fact that the key exchange is weak and easy to undermine:* http://www.zdnet.com/article/hackers-heres-how-apples-imessage-surveillance-flaw-works-video/* http://www.tomsguide.com/us/is-apple-imessage-secure%2Cnews-17741.html Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-08 18:22 (#PWVS) Well, they are trying to fix it -> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/02/17/how-to-secure-imessage-and-facetime/It's not perfect, but at the moment I would say it beats the competition. Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 05:20 (#PY8M) Well, they are trying to fix it -> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/02/17/how-to-secure-imessage-and-facetime/No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.It's not perfect, but at the moment I would say it beats the competition.No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.html Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 06:55 (#PYER) No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.Such as...?No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.htmlAre you really linking to an article that starts with Blackberry messenger?http://lighthouseinsights.in/indian-government-can-now-monitor-blackberry-messenger-and-internet-service-email.html/
Re: I don't get it (Score: 3, Insightful) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-10-08 06:12 (#PTJP) I'd assume it's just "good for business"... Apple put-in encryption features AFTER the public outcry of the Snowden/NSA domestic spying revelations (Apple was well-aware, but there was no public outrage yet) and privacy-centric and/or non-US businesses were gaining customers at others expense. Apple likes to loudly tout how iMessage is safe from spying & subpoenas, despite the fact that the key exchange is weak and easy to undermine:* http://www.zdnet.com/article/hackers-heres-how-apples-imessage-surveillance-flaw-works-video/* http://www.tomsguide.com/us/is-apple-imessage-secure%2Cnews-17741.html Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-08 18:22 (#PWVS) Well, they are trying to fix it -> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/02/17/how-to-secure-imessage-and-facetime/It's not perfect, but at the moment I would say it beats the competition. Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 05:20 (#PY8M) Well, they are trying to fix it -> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/02/17/how-to-secure-imessage-and-facetime/No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.It's not perfect, but at the moment I would say it beats the competition.No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.html Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 06:55 (#PYER) No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.Such as...?No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.htmlAre you really linking to an article that starts with Blackberry messenger?http://lighthouseinsights.in/indian-government-can-now-monitor-blackberry-messenger-and-internet-service-email.html/
Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-08 18:22 (#PWVS) Well, they are trying to fix it -> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/02/17/how-to-secure-imessage-and-facetime/It's not perfect, but at the moment I would say it beats the competition. Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 05:20 (#PY8M) Well, they are trying to fix it -> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/02/17/how-to-secure-imessage-and-facetime/No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.It's not perfect, but at the moment I would say it beats the competition.No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.html Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 06:55 (#PYER) No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.Such as...?No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.htmlAre you really linking to an article that starts with Blackberry messenger?http://lighthouseinsights.in/indian-government-can-now-monitor-blackberry-messenger-and-internet-service-email.html/
Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 05:20 (#PY8M) Well, they are trying to fix it -> http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/02/17/how-to-secure-imessage-and-facetime/No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.It's not perfect, but at the moment I would say it beats the competition.No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.html Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 06:55 (#PYER) No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.Such as...?No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.htmlAre you really linking to an article that starts with Blackberry messenger?http://lighthouseinsights.in/indian-government-can-now-monitor-blackberry-messenger-and-internet-service-email.html/
Re: I don't get it (Score: 1) by wilson@pipedot.org on 2015-10-09 06:55 (#PYER) No they aren't. You seem confused. The flaws have nothing to do with user passwords and 2-factor authentication. That's a whole other area where Apple is (or at least was) horribly, absurdly insecure.Such as...?No, there are plenty of more secure options:* http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/6981-secure-messaging-apps-business.htmlAre you really linking to an article that starts with Blackberry messenger?http://lighthouseinsights.in/indian-government-can-now-monitor-blackberry-messenger-and-internet-service-email.html/