How about block islam? (Score: 1, Insightful) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-12 20:42 (#XGKZ) That'd fix the terrorist problem. Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-12 21:06 (#XGNJ) There have been more deaths in the west due to Christian terrorists, than Islamic ones. Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-13 17:47 (#XJSJ) Maybe 1,500 years ago. Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-13 19:13 (#XJZM) No, recently.Anti-government, secessionists, anti-abortionists, KKK, neo-nazis, anti-secular evangelicals, conspiracy theorists, etc. Not to mention all the new anti-islamists crazies who go and murder random brown-skinned people.Even with just mass shootings, only a tiny minority are done by Islamists. Not a great list, but this should put things in proper perspective:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93presentMore here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#United_StatesI don't mean to be US-only, just that the english Wiki doesn't do an in-depth job on much else.Even more on-the-nose: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 05:07 (#XM3M) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right? Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 16:34 (#XNSD) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right?France has had "terrorist problems" for CENTURIES... And Germany has just as many Muslims as France, with far fewer incidents of terrorism. All those Syrian refugees aren't going to France, so Germany should have a significantly larger Muslim population in a few years.Nearly a year-old, but directly on-the-nose:Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent. ...We are talking about groups like France's FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities....one of the worst terror attacks ever in Europe in 2011, when Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-"Christian Europe" agenda as he stated in his manifesto,- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html- http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609796/islamist-terrorism-europe/ Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-17 03:42 (#XYNG) Your argument seems compelling, at first. And terrorism by other factions was common in the past, but what about recently? Does the Vatican openly place a bounty for killing someone that doesn't like catholicism? (http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-official-places-bounty-anti-islam-filmmaker-214532413.html) ... Also here's a handy website that lists islam motivated terror attacks: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Your website analyzes attacks 1980-2005... That seems to be a cherry-picked year range, and 1980-1990 is incredibly less relevant than 2011-2015. Here are the attacks in 2015 alone:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2015.htmHere are 2014:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2014.htmAlso... Why don't islamic countries want islamic refugees? Saudi Arabia has tents that could house millions of them, yet they don't actually let them in. If their country isn't working, and they are far less willing than other cultures to adapt to a different way of life...what is the point of letting them in France, or other countries? They will just muck it up.
Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-12 21:06 (#XGNJ) There have been more deaths in the west due to Christian terrorists, than Islamic ones. Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-13 17:47 (#XJSJ) Maybe 1,500 years ago. Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-13 19:13 (#XJZM) No, recently.Anti-government, secessionists, anti-abortionists, KKK, neo-nazis, anti-secular evangelicals, conspiracy theorists, etc. Not to mention all the new anti-islamists crazies who go and murder random brown-skinned people.Even with just mass shootings, only a tiny minority are done by Islamists. Not a great list, but this should put things in proper perspective:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93presentMore here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#United_StatesI don't mean to be US-only, just that the english Wiki doesn't do an in-depth job on much else.Even more on-the-nose: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 05:07 (#XM3M) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right? Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 16:34 (#XNSD) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right?France has had "terrorist problems" for CENTURIES... And Germany has just as many Muslims as France, with far fewer incidents of terrorism. All those Syrian refugees aren't going to France, so Germany should have a significantly larger Muslim population in a few years.Nearly a year-old, but directly on-the-nose:Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent. ...We are talking about groups like France's FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities....one of the worst terror attacks ever in Europe in 2011, when Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-"Christian Europe" agenda as he stated in his manifesto,- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html- http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609796/islamist-terrorism-europe/ Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-17 03:42 (#XYNG) Your argument seems compelling, at first. And terrorism by other factions was common in the past, but what about recently? Does the Vatican openly place a bounty for killing someone that doesn't like catholicism? (http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-official-places-bounty-anti-islam-filmmaker-214532413.html) ... Also here's a handy website that lists islam motivated terror attacks: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Your website analyzes attacks 1980-2005... That seems to be a cherry-picked year range, and 1980-1990 is incredibly less relevant than 2011-2015. Here are the attacks in 2015 alone:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2015.htmHere are 2014:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2014.htmAlso... Why don't islamic countries want islamic refugees? Saudi Arabia has tents that could house millions of them, yet they don't actually let them in. If their country isn't working, and they are far less willing than other cultures to adapt to a different way of life...what is the point of letting them in France, or other countries? They will just muck it up.
Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-13 17:47 (#XJSJ) Maybe 1,500 years ago. Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-13 19:13 (#XJZM) No, recently.Anti-government, secessionists, anti-abortionists, KKK, neo-nazis, anti-secular evangelicals, conspiracy theorists, etc. Not to mention all the new anti-islamists crazies who go and murder random brown-skinned people.Even with just mass shootings, only a tiny minority are done by Islamists. Not a great list, but this should put things in proper perspective:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93presentMore here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#United_StatesI don't mean to be US-only, just that the english Wiki doesn't do an in-depth job on much else.Even more on-the-nose: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 05:07 (#XM3M) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right? Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 16:34 (#XNSD) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right?France has had "terrorist problems" for CENTURIES... And Germany has just as many Muslims as France, with far fewer incidents of terrorism. All those Syrian refugees aren't going to France, so Germany should have a significantly larger Muslim population in a few years.Nearly a year-old, but directly on-the-nose:Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent. ...We are talking about groups like France's FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities....one of the worst terror attacks ever in Europe in 2011, when Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-"Christian Europe" agenda as he stated in his manifesto,- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html- http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609796/islamist-terrorism-europe/ Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-17 03:42 (#XYNG) Your argument seems compelling, at first. And terrorism by other factions was common in the past, but what about recently? Does the Vatican openly place a bounty for killing someone that doesn't like catholicism? (http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-official-places-bounty-anti-islam-filmmaker-214532413.html) ... Also here's a handy website that lists islam motivated terror attacks: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Your website analyzes attacks 1980-2005... That seems to be a cherry-picked year range, and 1980-1990 is incredibly less relevant than 2011-2015. Here are the attacks in 2015 alone:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2015.htmHere are 2014:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2014.htmAlso... Why don't islamic countries want islamic refugees? Saudi Arabia has tents that could house millions of them, yet they don't actually let them in. If their country isn't working, and they are far less willing than other cultures to adapt to a different way of life...what is the point of letting them in France, or other countries? They will just muck it up.
Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-13 19:13 (#XJZM) No, recently.Anti-government, secessionists, anti-abortionists, KKK, neo-nazis, anti-secular evangelicals, conspiracy theorists, etc. Not to mention all the new anti-islamists crazies who go and murder random brown-skinned people.Even with just mass shootings, only a tiny minority are done by Islamists. Not a great list, but this should put things in proper perspective:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93presentMore here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#United_StatesI don't mean to be US-only, just that the english Wiki doesn't do an in-depth job on much else.Even more on-the-nose: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 05:07 (#XM3M) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right? Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 16:34 (#XNSD) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right?France has had "terrorist problems" for CENTURIES... And Germany has just as many Muslims as France, with far fewer incidents of terrorism. All those Syrian refugees aren't going to France, so Germany should have a significantly larger Muslim population in a few years.Nearly a year-old, but directly on-the-nose:Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent. ...We are talking about groups like France's FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities....one of the worst terror attacks ever in Europe in 2011, when Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-"Christian Europe" agenda as he stated in his manifesto,- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html- http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609796/islamist-terrorism-europe/ Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-17 03:42 (#XYNG) Your argument seems compelling, at first. And terrorism by other factions was common in the past, but what about recently? Does the Vatican openly place a bounty for killing someone that doesn't like catholicism? (http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-official-places-bounty-anti-islam-filmmaker-214532413.html) ... Also here's a handy website that lists islam motivated terror attacks: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Your website analyzes attacks 1980-2005... That seems to be a cherry-picked year range, and 1980-1990 is incredibly less relevant than 2011-2015. Here are the attacks in 2015 alone:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2015.htmHere are 2014:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2014.htmAlso... Why don't islamic countries want islamic refugees? Saudi Arabia has tents that could house millions of them, yet they don't actually let them in. If their country isn't working, and they are far less willing than other cultures to adapt to a different way of life...what is the point of letting them in France, or other countries? They will just muck it up.
Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 05:07 (#XM3M) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right? Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 16:34 (#XNSD) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right?France has had "terrorist problems" for CENTURIES... And Germany has just as many Muslims as France, with far fewer incidents of terrorism. All those Syrian refugees aren't going to France, so Germany should have a significantly larger Muslim population in a few years.Nearly a year-old, but directly on-the-nose:Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent. ...We are talking about groups like France's FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities....one of the worst terror attacks ever in Europe in 2011, when Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-"Christian Europe" agenda as he stated in his manifesto,- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html- http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609796/islamist-terrorism-europe/ Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-17 03:42 (#XYNG) Your argument seems compelling, at first. And terrorism by other factions was common in the past, but what about recently? Does the Vatican openly place a bounty for killing someone that doesn't like catholicism? (http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-official-places-bounty-anti-islam-filmmaker-214532413.html) ... Also here's a handy website that lists islam motivated terror attacks: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Your website analyzes attacks 1980-2005... That seems to be a cherry-picked year range, and 1980-1990 is incredibly less relevant than 2011-2015. Here are the attacks in 2015 alone:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2015.htmHere are 2014:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2014.htmAlso... Why don't islamic countries want islamic refugees? Saudi Arabia has tents that could house millions of them, yet they don't actually let them in. If their country isn't working, and they are far less willing than other cultures to adapt to a different way of life...what is the point of letting them in France, or other countries? They will just muck it up.
Re: How about block islam? (Score: 2, Informative) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-12-14 16:34 (#XNSD) So it's just a coincidence France lets a bunch of muslims in...and now has terrorist problem...right?France has had "terrorist problems" for CENTURIES... And Germany has just as many Muslims as France, with far fewer incidents of terrorism. All those Syrian refugees aren't going to France, so Germany should have a significantly larger Muslim population in a few years.Nearly a year-old, but directly on-the-nose:Want to guess what percent of the terrorist attacks there were committed by Muslims over the past five years? Wrong. That is, unless you said less than 2 percent. ...We are talking about groups like France's FLNC, which advocates an independent nation for the island of Corsica. In December 2013, FLNC terrorists carried out simultaneous rocket attacks against police stations in two French cities....one of the worst terror attacks ever in Europe in 2011, when Anders Breivik slaughtered 77 people in Norway to further his anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and pro-"Christian Europe" agenda as he stated in his manifesto,- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/are-all-terrorists-muslims-it-s-not-even-close.html- http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/08/3609796/islamist-terrorism-europe/ Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-17 03:42 (#XYNG) Your argument seems compelling, at first. And terrorism by other factions was common in the past, but what about recently? Does the Vatican openly place a bounty for killing someone that doesn't like catholicism? (http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-official-places-bounty-anti-islam-filmmaker-214532413.html) ... Also here's a handy website that lists islam motivated terror attacks: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Your website analyzes attacks 1980-2005... That seems to be a cherry-picked year range, and 1980-1990 is incredibly less relevant than 2011-2015. Here are the attacks in 2015 alone:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2015.htmHere are 2014:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2014.htmAlso... Why don't islamic countries want islamic refugees? Saudi Arabia has tents that could house millions of them, yet they don't actually let them in. If their country isn't working, and they are far less willing than other cultures to adapt to a different way of life...what is the point of letting them in France, or other countries? They will just muck it up.
Re: How about block islam? (Score: 1) by entropy@pipedot.org on 2015-12-17 03:42 (#XYNG) Your argument seems compelling, at first. And terrorism by other factions was common in the past, but what about recently? Does the Vatican openly place a bounty for killing someone that doesn't like catholicism? (http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-official-places-bounty-anti-islam-filmmaker-214532413.html) ... Also here's a handy website that lists islam motivated terror attacks: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Your website analyzes attacks 1980-2005... That seems to be a cherry-picked year range, and 1980-1990 is incredibly less relevant than 2011-2015. Here are the attacks in 2015 alone:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2015.htmHere are 2014:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2014.htmAlso... Why don't islamic countries want islamic refugees? Saudi Arabia has tents that could house millions of them, yet they don't actually let them in. If their country isn't working, and they are far less willing than other cultures to adapt to a different way of life...what is the point of letting them in France, or other countries? They will just muck it up.