My method is not sophistiocated but it works (Score: 1) by fnj@pipedot.org on 2014-05-12 05:15 (#1H2) I just install a minimal system, and as soon as I am booted and running, as the occasion arises and I find I need package X, I just use apt-get, yum, or pacman to install it. I don't grasp what the problem is. All that stuff is always online and a few keystrokes away.I don't use Nvidia or AMD video crap, so the whole cluster foxtrot of getting that garbage working is not anything that affects me. I am perfectly happy with my Intel video which has excellent drivers built into every distro and Just Works. Re: My method is not sophistiocated but it works (Score: 2, Insightful) by danieldvorkin@pipedot.org on 2014-05-12 17:11 (#1HF) I just use apt-get, yum, or pacman to install it. I don't grasp what the problem is."Possibly most important: expecting someone to look for an answer to a question they don't even know exists! This is a very common problem in advanced technical user circles, nobody remembers their own learning curve, and starts to think that highly specialized technical knowledge is somehow something that people should know."Everyone has to start somewhere, and in the Unix(-alike) world, people who started a while back are justifiably notorious for treating people who started more recently like shit. Re: My method is not sophistiocated but it works (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-05-13 18:33 (#1JQ) Everyone has to start somewhere, and in the Unix(-alike) world, people who started a while back are justifiably notorious for treating people who started more recently like shit.I don't think anyone was treating anyone like shit, but saying so is of course an easy way to avoid answering the question. What's the problem?I also just install a minimal systems and install extra packages when needed and I have no idea why I would ever think it would be "easier" to download a .zip (A .zip file? On Linux?! WTF?!), install unzip , extract the zip file (Seriously WTF?!) and run some third party (and totally unsupported by my distro of choice) scripts instead of just installing the package I really need.I did try to look in their FAQ yesterday, but I couldn't find any reason why they decided to use a .zip file instead of a .tar.gz. I can't remember a single distro where unzip is installed by default, but I'm pretty sure most distros has tar by default. Why are they trying to make it harder for people to use their scripts?
Re: My method is not sophistiocated but it works (Score: 2, Insightful) by danieldvorkin@pipedot.org on 2014-05-12 17:11 (#1HF) I just use apt-get, yum, or pacman to install it. I don't grasp what the problem is."Possibly most important: expecting someone to look for an answer to a question they don't even know exists! This is a very common problem in advanced technical user circles, nobody remembers their own learning curve, and starts to think that highly specialized technical knowledge is somehow something that people should know."Everyone has to start somewhere, and in the Unix(-alike) world, people who started a while back are justifiably notorious for treating people who started more recently like shit. Re: My method is not sophistiocated but it works (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-05-13 18:33 (#1JQ) Everyone has to start somewhere, and in the Unix(-alike) world, people who started a while back are justifiably notorious for treating people who started more recently like shit.I don't think anyone was treating anyone like shit, but saying so is of course an easy way to avoid answering the question. What's the problem?I also just install a minimal systems and install extra packages when needed and I have no idea why I would ever think it would be "easier" to download a .zip (A .zip file? On Linux?! WTF?!), install unzip , extract the zip file (Seriously WTF?!) and run some third party (and totally unsupported by my distro of choice) scripts instead of just installing the package I really need.I did try to look in their FAQ yesterday, but I couldn't find any reason why they decided to use a .zip file instead of a .tar.gz. I can't remember a single distro where unzip is installed by default, but I'm pretty sure most distros has tar by default. Why are they trying to make it harder for people to use their scripts?
Re: My method is not sophistiocated but it works (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2014-05-13 18:33 (#1JQ) Everyone has to start somewhere, and in the Unix(-alike) world, people who started a while back are justifiably notorious for treating people who started more recently like shit.I don't think anyone was treating anyone like shit, but saying so is of course an easy way to avoid answering the question. What's the problem?I also just install a minimal systems and install extra packages when needed and I have no idea why I would ever think it would be "easier" to download a .zip (A .zip file? On Linux?! WTF?!), install unzip , extract the zip file (Seriously WTF?!) and run some third party (and totally unsupported by my distro of choice) scripts instead of just installing the package I really need.I did try to look in their FAQ yesterday, but I couldn't find any reason why they decided to use a .zip file instead of a .tar.gz. I can't remember a single distro where unzip is installed by default, but I'm pretty sure most distros has tar by default. Why are they trying to make it harder for people to use their scripts?