Re: I guess - Pipedot

I guess (Score: 1, Interesting)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 16:34 (#2S7C)

that Apple earns its moronic devotion because the rest of the industry is just that bad.

Big Fruit waited at least year after others jumped in on watches and wearables, and yet, once AGAIN, they are poised to lead the way, if their "innovative" version actually works well. The other guys just can't seem to put together products that work well for the no-brainer crowd.

Motorola came SO close to delivering an industry leading smart watch, and yet they blew it -- http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/09/moto-360-review-beautiful-outside-ugly-inside/

Re: I guess (Score: 1, Insightful)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 17:41 (#2S7D)

Different AC than above...

So because the battery might only last about a day, Motorola blew it? I'd say they hit it pretty square on for a first generation product. It looks great, but it's got some issues that might cause some folks to say, "I'll wait for round 2." Anyone remember the first iPhone? Not everyone was buying into it, but as time went on, after a few rounds of releases, it became the most recognizable phone out there.

To be fair, if Apple releases a watch today with *objectively* better specifications, then Motorola may have blown it. But based on the state of technology, I do not think that Apple can pull leaps and bounds ahead here, unless they've also developed a new battery chemistry.

Re: I guess (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 17:52 (#2S7E)

Just using a newer SOC would be enough to realize longer battery life through reduced power consumption.

Re: I guess (Score: 1, Interesting)

by Anonymous Coward on 2014-09-09 20:34 (#2S7P)

Does it?

Everyone says a newer SOC is more power efficient, and on the face of it, sure, that sounds correct. Moore's law essentially backs this up indirectly, because we can only keep adding processing power if we're keeping power consumption in check. However, we're not talking about generic "moved to a newer process" power efficiency numbers, we're talking about a very specific comparison, between the Moto360 with an OMAP3360 and "everything else" with a Snapdragon 400. Until someone can drop specific power numbers of just the SOC for similar tasks, I'd like everyone to stop parroting that newer SOC would have been more power efficient. If you have proof, then that's awesome, show it, because I think you're right and I'd love to see it, and I can't seem to find those numbers.

A good start might be comparing absolute power numbers from the OMAP3360 and the Snapdragon 400, but I think in this case we might be more concerned about idle power, which isn't always totally obvious in a datasheet.

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