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Mel Stride, the shadow chancellor, was doing an interview round for the Conservatives this morning, and Miatta Fahnbulleh, the faith and communities minister, was on the air on behalf of the government. They were both asked about the latest development in the flag phenomenon - the former footballer turned property developer Gary Neville saying that he took down a union flag flying at one of his building sites because he felt it was being used in a negative fashion".

Asked if Neville (a Labour supporter) had a point, Fahnbulleh told ITV's Good Morning Britain:

I think he's really right, that there are people who are trying to divide us at the moment ...

I spent a lot of time going around our communities, talking to people. People are ground down. We've had a decade-and-a-half in which living standards haven't budged and people have seen their communities held down. And you will get people trying to stoke division, trying to blame others, trying to stoke tension.

I think people that put up flags, the vast majority of people that do, do so for perfectly reasonable patriotic reasons. And I think reclaiming our flag as a flag of unity and decency and tolerance, which is the way most people see our flag, is a very positive thing.

So I'm afraid I really cannot agree with the comments that he's made.