Out of interest... (Score: 1) by jonh@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 17:40 (#16) Forgive me if I'm having a reading fail, but what language/framework is |. written in/on? (e.g. Rails? node.js?) I'm not sure I saw that in the summary (it's still morning here), and I'm just kind of curious... Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 17:52 (#19) My bet is it's PHP, a homegrown CSS, no JavaScript. You can tell a lot by doing a view source. I'd like to know what DB back end the sites using, MySQL or PostgreSQL. In the SoylentNews forms we were discussing if we had to build from the ground up what DB back end and scripting language we'd use. Postgres won the poll by a landslide. (I was very surprised)We still haven't discussed the language. Though we've had people request everything from perl to python to ruby, most say avoid PHP, which again is odd since PHP seems to be the go-to web programming language. Personally I think perl should be avoided, it's a relic that was never intended for web programming, but was forced into that role and was abused severely by people writing CGI scripts that lead to huge gaping security holes. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by wezeldog@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 19:15 (#1A) I really couldn't tell if it was backed by PHP or Ruby or Python by looking at URLs and source, but that doesn't matter as much as getting the content and community up and running. It's probably my bias, but /. submissions are palpably the worst they've been. I like the absence of javascript, but it's probably unavoidable once moderation is delivered. To me, |. is what the /. beta/re-write should have been as far as starting with a fresh slate, but needs submissions and commenting/moderation. Soylent news looks like it's taken slashcode, but seems to have decent submissions. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 19:39 (#1C) The |. creator frequents the SN IRC channel, I remember him saying it was PHP, the JavaScript and CSS I got from a view source.JavaScript can be ok to use, but I find people try to use to to make flashy things happen for site critical functions, which means if you have JS turned off, or if you use a screen reader, everything is broken. Moderation can be done without JS. It is on SN, but admittedly it doesn't function as well as it does on /., I like how /. automatically deducts the mod points as soon as you chose an option from the drop down rather than having to click the "moderate" button on SN and having the whole page refresh.I agree with the /. beta thing, they could have done a lot better. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by eunuchswear@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 11:17 (#23) By slashdot's "moderation as soon as you pick the list entry" thing is a mega-pain when you're reading/moderating on your phone - it is far too easy to mis-mod without a confirm step. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 14:48 (#26) That is very true. I've never moderated on my phone so I hadn't thought about that.
Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 17:52 (#19) My bet is it's PHP, a homegrown CSS, no JavaScript. You can tell a lot by doing a view source. I'd like to know what DB back end the sites using, MySQL or PostgreSQL. In the SoylentNews forms we were discussing if we had to build from the ground up what DB back end and scripting language we'd use. Postgres won the poll by a landslide. (I was very surprised)We still haven't discussed the language. Though we've had people request everything from perl to python to ruby, most say avoid PHP, which again is odd since PHP seems to be the go-to web programming language. Personally I think perl should be avoided, it's a relic that was never intended for web programming, but was forced into that role and was abused severely by people writing CGI scripts that lead to huge gaping security holes. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by wezeldog@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 19:15 (#1A) I really couldn't tell if it was backed by PHP or Ruby or Python by looking at URLs and source, but that doesn't matter as much as getting the content and community up and running. It's probably my bias, but /. submissions are palpably the worst they've been. I like the absence of javascript, but it's probably unavoidable once moderation is delivered. To me, |. is what the /. beta/re-write should have been as far as starting with a fresh slate, but needs submissions and commenting/moderation. Soylent news looks like it's taken slashcode, but seems to have decent submissions. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 19:39 (#1C) The |. creator frequents the SN IRC channel, I remember him saying it was PHP, the JavaScript and CSS I got from a view source.JavaScript can be ok to use, but I find people try to use to to make flashy things happen for site critical functions, which means if you have JS turned off, or if you use a screen reader, everything is broken. Moderation can be done without JS. It is on SN, but admittedly it doesn't function as well as it does on /., I like how /. automatically deducts the mod points as soon as you chose an option from the drop down rather than having to click the "moderate" button on SN and having the whole page refresh.I agree with the /. beta thing, they could have done a lot better. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by eunuchswear@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 11:17 (#23) By slashdot's "moderation as soon as you pick the list entry" thing is a mega-pain when you're reading/moderating on your phone - it is far too easy to mis-mod without a confirm step. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 14:48 (#26) That is very true. I've never moderated on my phone so I hadn't thought about that.
Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by wezeldog@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 19:15 (#1A) I really couldn't tell if it was backed by PHP or Ruby or Python by looking at URLs and source, but that doesn't matter as much as getting the content and community up and running. It's probably my bias, but /. submissions are palpably the worst they've been. I like the absence of javascript, but it's probably unavoidable once moderation is delivered. To me, |. is what the /. beta/re-write should have been as far as starting with a fresh slate, but needs submissions and commenting/moderation. Soylent news looks like it's taken slashcode, but seems to have decent submissions. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 19:39 (#1C) The |. creator frequents the SN IRC channel, I remember him saying it was PHP, the JavaScript and CSS I got from a view source.JavaScript can be ok to use, but I find people try to use to to make flashy things happen for site critical functions, which means if you have JS turned off, or if you use a screen reader, everything is broken. Moderation can be done without JS. It is on SN, but admittedly it doesn't function as well as it does on /., I like how /. automatically deducts the mod points as soon as you chose an option from the drop down rather than having to click the "moderate" button on SN and having the whole page refresh.I agree with the /. beta thing, they could have done a lot better. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by eunuchswear@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 11:17 (#23) By slashdot's "moderation as soon as you pick the list entry" thing is a mega-pain when you're reading/moderating on your phone - it is far too easy to mis-mod without a confirm step. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 14:48 (#26) That is very true. I've never moderated on my phone so I hadn't thought about that.
Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-17 19:39 (#1C) The |. creator frequents the SN IRC channel, I remember him saying it was PHP, the JavaScript and CSS I got from a view source.JavaScript can be ok to use, but I find people try to use to to make flashy things happen for site critical functions, which means if you have JS turned off, or if you use a screen reader, everything is broken. Moderation can be done without JS. It is on SN, but admittedly it doesn't function as well as it does on /., I like how /. automatically deducts the mod points as soon as you chose an option from the drop down rather than having to click the "moderate" button on SN and having the whole page refresh.I agree with the /. beta thing, they could have done a lot better. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by eunuchswear@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 11:17 (#23) By slashdot's "moderation as soon as you pick the list entry" thing is a mega-pain when you're reading/moderating on your phone - it is far too easy to mis-mod without a confirm step. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 14:48 (#26) That is very true. I've never moderated on my phone so I hadn't thought about that.
Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by eunuchswear@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 11:17 (#23) By slashdot's "moderation as soon as you pick the list entry" thing is a mega-pain when you're reading/moderating on your phone - it is far too easy to mis-mod without a confirm step. Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 14:48 (#26) That is very true. I've never moderated on my phone so I hadn't thought about that.
Re: Out of interest... (Score: 1) by vanderhoth@pipedot.org on 2014-02-18 14:48 (#26) That is very true. I've never moderated on my phone so I hadn't thought about that.