I like them all (Score: 2) by computermachine@pipedot.org on 2015-11-21 11:18 (#V9W7) There is no bond actor I dislike. They are all pretty good, I think. I voted Connery, though. Re: I like them all (Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-11-21 22:42 (#VB6T) I thought Lazenby was awful, On Her Majesty's Secret Service was a very dull movie.As for Connery, I find it difficult to like a James Bond who rapes women during the course of his adventures... Re: I like them all (Score: 3, Insightful) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-11-22 07:41 (#VC0D) As for Connery, I find it difficult to like a James Bond who rapes women during the course of his adventures...We're too damn over-sensitized in this political-correctness charged environment, where everything from making sexist comments to being drunk is called a sex crime. We rightfully mock Saudi Arabia for it's lack of women's rights, but fail to recognize the west has gone ridiculously far in the opposite direction.In Bond's case, using a bit of force to just KISS a woman is certainly NOT rape... though it might qualify as some other sort of assault. James Bond doesn't exactly shy away from assault... in fact he murders people. Which one would you say is worse? This kind of depiction isn't limited to Sean Connery, at least Harrison Ford in Blade Runner had a similar scene, which was far less whimsical.Over-classifying everything as rape is both unjust and will eventually have the opposite effect of de-stigmatizing and reducing punishments on actual, possibly violent, rapists, who will become indistinguishable from the large group of average people. You can see this as far back as the unfortunate term "statutory-rape", and has now happened with sex-offenders' registries, where folks completely ignore it, because they have become worthless through overuse. Re: I like them all (Score: 1) by wootery@pipedot.org on 2015-12-19 22:55 (#Y7PD) Bond doesn't exactly shy away from assault... in fact he murders people. Which one would you say is worse?Bond is a government agent. As far as I can recall, he's never killed someone out of mere personal dislike. He kills people, but I don't see that Bond is any more a murderer than is an honest soldier. (Ignoring little things like jurisdiction and international law, that is.)His treatment of women, though, is strictly for personal enjoyment.
Re: I like them all (Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on 2015-11-21 22:42 (#VB6T) I thought Lazenby was awful, On Her Majesty's Secret Service was a very dull movie.As for Connery, I find it difficult to like a James Bond who rapes women during the course of his adventures... Re: I like them all (Score: 3, Insightful) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-11-22 07:41 (#VC0D) As for Connery, I find it difficult to like a James Bond who rapes women during the course of his adventures...We're too damn over-sensitized in this political-correctness charged environment, where everything from making sexist comments to being drunk is called a sex crime. We rightfully mock Saudi Arabia for it's lack of women's rights, but fail to recognize the west has gone ridiculously far in the opposite direction.In Bond's case, using a bit of force to just KISS a woman is certainly NOT rape... though it might qualify as some other sort of assault. James Bond doesn't exactly shy away from assault... in fact he murders people. Which one would you say is worse? This kind of depiction isn't limited to Sean Connery, at least Harrison Ford in Blade Runner had a similar scene, which was far less whimsical.Over-classifying everything as rape is both unjust and will eventually have the opposite effect of de-stigmatizing and reducing punishments on actual, possibly violent, rapists, who will become indistinguishable from the large group of average people. You can see this as far back as the unfortunate term "statutory-rape", and has now happened with sex-offenders' registries, where folks completely ignore it, because they have become worthless through overuse. Re: I like them all (Score: 1) by wootery@pipedot.org on 2015-12-19 22:55 (#Y7PD) Bond doesn't exactly shy away from assault... in fact he murders people. Which one would you say is worse?Bond is a government agent. As far as I can recall, he's never killed someone out of mere personal dislike. He kills people, but I don't see that Bond is any more a murderer than is an honest soldier. (Ignoring little things like jurisdiction and international law, that is.)His treatment of women, though, is strictly for personal enjoyment.
Re: I like them all (Score: 3, Insightful) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2015-11-22 07:41 (#VC0D) As for Connery, I find it difficult to like a James Bond who rapes women during the course of his adventures...We're too damn over-sensitized in this political-correctness charged environment, where everything from making sexist comments to being drunk is called a sex crime. We rightfully mock Saudi Arabia for it's lack of women's rights, but fail to recognize the west has gone ridiculously far in the opposite direction.In Bond's case, using a bit of force to just KISS a woman is certainly NOT rape... though it might qualify as some other sort of assault. James Bond doesn't exactly shy away from assault... in fact he murders people. Which one would you say is worse? This kind of depiction isn't limited to Sean Connery, at least Harrison Ford in Blade Runner had a similar scene, which was far less whimsical.Over-classifying everything as rape is both unjust and will eventually have the opposite effect of de-stigmatizing and reducing punishments on actual, possibly violent, rapists, who will become indistinguishable from the large group of average people. You can see this as far back as the unfortunate term "statutory-rape", and has now happened with sex-offenders' registries, where folks completely ignore it, because they have become worthless through overuse. Re: I like them all (Score: 1) by wootery@pipedot.org on 2015-12-19 22:55 (#Y7PD) Bond doesn't exactly shy away from assault... in fact he murders people. Which one would you say is worse?Bond is a government agent. As far as I can recall, he's never killed someone out of mere personal dislike. He kills people, but I don't see that Bond is any more a murderer than is an honest soldier. (Ignoring little things like jurisdiction and international law, that is.)His treatment of women, though, is strictly for personal enjoyment.
Re: I like them all (Score: 1) by wootery@pipedot.org on 2015-12-19 22:55 (#Y7PD) Bond doesn't exactly shy away from assault... in fact he murders people. Which one would you say is worse?Bond is a government agent. As far as I can recall, he's never killed someone out of mere personal dislike. He kills people, but I don't see that Bond is any more a murderer than is an honest soldier. (Ignoring little things like jurisdiction and international law, that is.)His treatment of women, though, is strictly for personal enjoyment.