Ummm... (Score: 4, Funny) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2016-08-23 01:29 (#1RB16) Seems like asking "How long before chainsaws are weaponized". Both are pretty-close to a weapon in their regular form. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-23 21:05 (#1RE1D) >Seems like asking "How long before chainsaws are weaponized". Both are pretty-close to a weapon in their regular form.Well, yes, but chainsaws aren't on the verge of being able to operate autonomously. People screw up and cause accidents with both chainsaws and cars, but chainsaws aren't usually used in crowds or operated in swarms (like traffic) the way cars are. No one is busy outfitting chainsaws to work without human guidance and they aren't usually let loose on the highways where they could cause major havoc. A chainsaw is typically a one-on-one operation and when you drop it, it usually stops being an active hazard. Autonomous cars have the ability to cause far more damage to groups of people, especially if driven into a crowd or made to cross into oncoming traffic. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2016-08-24 07:32 (#1RF8P) You seem to be talking about chainsaw *accidents*, versus *intentional* car sabotage. If you're inclined to cause a lot of damage with a chainsaw, you certainly can do so. Re: Ummm... (Score: 2, Interesting) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-24 16:34 (#1RGTB) > You seem to be talking about chainsaw *accidents*, versus *intentional* car sabotage. If you're inclined to cause a lot of damage with a chainsaw, you certainly can do soThat's why I don't think it's a good comparison. It's difficult to intentionally sabotage a chainsaw to cause widespread injury, but a car...the possibilities are endless. And that doesn't even bring into account the idea of an autonomous VBIED or one that can be driven remotely. Re: Ummm... (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2016-08-25 13:18 (#1RKT0) It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in France. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-25 16:42 (#1RMG6) > It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in FranceMy point exactly. It's easy enough now, how much more likely will it be when you can do it by remote with almost no chance of getting caught?
Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-23 21:05 (#1RE1D) >Seems like asking "How long before chainsaws are weaponized". Both are pretty-close to a weapon in their regular form.Well, yes, but chainsaws aren't on the verge of being able to operate autonomously. People screw up and cause accidents with both chainsaws and cars, but chainsaws aren't usually used in crowds or operated in swarms (like traffic) the way cars are. No one is busy outfitting chainsaws to work without human guidance and they aren't usually let loose on the highways where they could cause major havoc. A chainsaw is typically a one-on-one operation and when you drop it, it usually stops being an active hazard. Autonomous cars have the ability to cause far more damage to groups of people, especially if driven into a crowd or made to cross into oncoming traffic. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2016-08-24 07:32 (#1RF8P) You seem to be talking about chainsaw *accidents*, versus *intentional* car sabotage. If you're inclined to cause a lot of damage with a chainsaw, you certainly can do so. Re: Ummm... (Score: 2, Interesting) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-24 16:34 (#1RGTB) > You seem to be talking about chainsaw *accidents*, versus *intentional* car sabotage. If you're inclined to cause a lot of damage with a chainsaw, you certainly can do soThat's why I don't think it's a good comparison. It's difficult to intentionally sabotage a chainsaw to cause widespread injury, but a car...the possibilities are endless. And that doesn't even bring into account the idea of an autonomous VBIED or one that can be driven remotely. Re: Ummm... (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2016-08-25 13:18 (#1RKT0) It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in France. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-25 16:42 (#1RMG6) > It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in FranceMy point exactly. It's easy enough now, how much more likely will it be when you can do it by remote with almost no chance of getting caught?
Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by evilviper@pipedot.org on 2016-08-24 07:32 (#1RF8P) You seem to be talking about chainsaw *accidents*, versus *intentional* car sabotage. If you're inclined to cause a lot of damage with a chainsaw, you certainly can do so. Re: Ummm... (Score: 2, Interesting) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-24 16:34 (#1RGTB) > You seem to be talking about chainsaw *accidents*, versus *intentional* car sabotage. If you're inclined to cause a lot of damage with a chainsaw, you certainly can do soThat's why I don't think it's a good comparison. It's difficult to intentionally sabotage a chainsaw to cause widespread injury, but a car...the possibilities are endless. And that doesn't even bring into account the idea of an autonomous VBIED or one that can be driven remotely. Re: Ummm... (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2016-08-25 13:18 (#1RKT0) It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in France. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-25 16:42 (#1RMG6) > It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in FranceMy point exactly. It's easy enough now, how much more likely will it be when you can do it by remote with almost no chance of getting caught?
Re: Ummm... (Score: 2, Interesting) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-24 16:34 (#1RGTB) > You seem to be talking about chainsaw *accidents*, versus *intentional* car sabotage. If you're inclined to cause a lot of damage with a chainsaw, you certainly can do soThat's why I don't think it's a good comparison. It's difficult to intentionally sabotage a chainsaw to cause widespread injury, but a car...the possibilities are endless. And that doesn't even bring into account the idea of an autonomous VBIED or one that can be driven remotely. Re: Ummm... (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2016-08-25 13:18 (#1RKT0) It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in France. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-25 16:42 (#1RMG6) > It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in FranceMy point exactly. It's easy enough now, how much more likely will it be when you can do it by remote with almost no chance of getting caught?
Re: Ummm... (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on 2016-08-25 13:18 (#1RKT0) It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in France. Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-25 16:42 (#1RMG6) > It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in FranceMy point exactly. It's easy enough now, how much more likely will it be when you can do it by remote with almost no chance of getting caught?
Re: Ummm... (Score: 1) by genericuser@pipedot.org on 2016-08-25 16:42 (#1RMG6) > It isn't that difficult right now to just drive a truck through a crowd full of people in FranceMy point exactly. It's easy enough now, how much more likely will it be when you can do it by remote with almost no chance of getting caught?