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But it did bring us one good thing, the beautiful glaucoma hymn . Majestic!

Just ask how many ophthalmologists undergo a laser surgery. The most will thankfully decline because the risks are simply too great. You should not mess with your eyes easily.
There are, of course, people who have significantly bad visual acuity where it accounts as a valid diagnose. Still, if glasses can help without too much of a problem, then messing with the cornea in a non-reversible way may not be a good option anyway.
If you ask an ophthalmologist, please ensure that (s)he is not making a profit from such procedure, before asking for advice.

Get the *FUCK* out of here with that Reddit tripe!

You insensitive clod!

There are actually 2 articles here. The first article is from late last year on the discovery of the layer. The second article is on linking the layer to glaucoma.

If many surgeons "recognise this layer as an important part of the surgical anatomy of the cornea", is it really a _new_ layer that's been discovered?

Where is the source? :)

This is a very classy looking beast indeed. Best of luck getting everything working.

Sometime this week.

Thanks for the bug note, seems it was grabbing the IP of the balancer and not the X-Fowarded-For header.

The |. creator frequents the SN IRC channel, I remember him saying it was PHP, the JavaScript and CSS I got from a view source.

JavaScript can be ok to use, but I find people try to use to to make flashy things happen for site critical functions, which means if you have JS turned off, or if you use a screen reader, everything is broken. Moderation can be done without JS. It is on SN, but admittedly it doesn't function as well as it does on /., I like how /. automatically deducts the mod points as soon as you chose an option from the drop down rather than having to click the "moderate" button on SN and having the whole page refresh.

I agree with the /. beta thing, they could have done a lot better.

reddit *ducks*

now seriously, it depends on the subreddit.
there really are some good ones out there.

I really couldn't tell if it was backed by PHP or Ruby or Python by looking at URLs and source, but that doesn't matter as much as getting the content and community up and running. It's probably my bias, but /. submissions are palpably the worst they've been. I like the absence of javascript, but it's probably unavoidable once moderation is delivered. To me, |. is what the /. beta/re-write should have been as far as starting with a fresh slate, but needs submissions and commenting/moderation. Soylent news looks like it's taken slashcode, but seems to have decent submissions.

My bet is it's PHP, a homegrown CSS, no JavaScript. You can tell a lot by doing a view source. I'd like to know what DB back end the sites using, MySQL or PostgreSQL. In the SoylentNews forms we were discussing if we had to build from the ground up what DB back end and scripting language we'd use. Postgres won the poll by a landslide. (I was very surprised)

We still haven't discussed the language. Though we've had people request everything from perl to python to ruby, most say avoid PHP, which again is odd since PHP seems to be the go-to web programming language. Personally I think perl should be avoided, it's a relic that was never intended for web programming, but was forced into that role and was abused severely by people writing CGI scripts that lead to huge gaping security holes.

Any news on the moderation system?

Solylent's angry brown...
I think that's the default that comes with SlashCode. The interface is really badly cluttered with widgits, but the site works surprisingly well on my phone which is a nice change. Slashdot mobile completely broke on my Galaxy Note II, If I didn't have the option to "Request desktop site" I would have stopped using /. long before Beta.

Forgive me if I'm having a reading fail, but what language/framework is |. written in/on? (e.g. Rails? node.js?) I'm not sure I saw that in the summary (it's still morning here), and I'm just kind of curious...

They seem to be approaching 4-digit UID's as of 'now', mine is in the low 700's.
I agree that pipedot is easier on the eyes though - maybe it's the calming ocean blue vs. Solylent's angry brown...

First thing I noticed: no limit on password length in contrast to soylentnews :-D
Second thing: I did not register from IP address 192.168.255.13, like the verification mail said ;-)

I am very impressed by the speed you got the site up.
You say it isn't based on slashcode, but did you use a web framework? What technologies do you use?

This site is obviously a government front setup to troll a certain type of user. A financial model is really a factor.

So what will the financial model be for keeping things going? Running all those servers isn't free plus any admins that may be needed. Just curious on your plans moving forward.

yup

Clean and the way it needs to be. Keep up the good work guys

It's a little misleading. SoylentNews and |. are working toward the same thing, but with different approaches. |. is ground up where as Soylent is trying to use something existing.

I like the ground up approach |. is taking there's been a lot of improvements in web technologies since Slashcode, which Soylent is based on, was first written.

I think both will succeed in their own right. Soylent does have a very active volunteer crew, where as |. seems to be built by one person (who's doing a fantastic job). I don't think the two approaches are compatible though unless Soylent want's to give up Slash code at some point and use |.'s interface when it's more completely, but I can't really see that happening.

I really like the look of your site, nice simple clean interface. Great work I'll be keeping an eye on progress.

For stealing the name I suggested?

(joke).

I am not sure if it has far more users. I just created accounts on both and my id is 77 (or something) here and 33 there. Also, Pipedot doesn't try to gouge my eyes out. That said, both the websites need more work, but soylentnews looks more complete.

Well, I hope that this place takes off, cuz I got the awesomest UID.

I also really like how pipedot is coming together. Pipedot is being properly designed from the ground up, whereas soylentnews was being built off the old code to get to a fully-functional site faster, and will then be refactored and redesigned a bit.

Both are legitimate approaches, and everybody is working towards the same goal. With any luck there'll be some exchange of ideas and techniques, if not actual code.

When google reader went down, the community fractured off and created dozens of new RSS readers. Not all survived, but quite a few are thriving. Slashdot doesn't need to be replaced with one monolithic site, we can easily have half a dozen to fill that space.

Since pipedot and soylentnews are both working towards the same goal, are there any plans to merge the two? Pipedot seems better in some respects (https by default, CSS looks more modern in places), but soylentnews has far more users.

The ideal, to me, seems like a merge of pipedot's improvements to slash into the soylentnews codebase.

As far as a I know, there are still plans to run a name choosing competition for soylentnews; pipedot is a good idea, and could easily be one of the options.

Your choices are Monday, 2014-02-17, or Tuesday, 2014-02-18.

Hear hear!

You too!

Grats! Keep up the good work!

Bruce Perens is reviving his news site on Tuesday, 2014-02-17 with another rewrite (non-slashcode based) project.

There is Barrapunto if you can speak Spanish.

There's another new site called Pipedot. It looks slick, loads fast and the HTML is pretty clean. Hold on, let me see if I can find the link...

Kuro5hin has been around for a while now. Their website is based on their own Scoop engine.

Soylent News is a new Slashcode based site. They have not launched yet, but they have an active wiki, forum, and IRC channel.

Well it is....

testing 1, 2...

That's what your mom said.

Now that is a fine post, right there.

FUCK BETA

test

So deep

Second level, third reply.

Second level, second reply.

First post-first post-post

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