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Re: Conservative views? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 09:55 (#2V8W)

Are they really so bad that the only solution is death? I propose a better solution: let them rant and rave, take onboard the good that they have to offer, ignore the bad, and let us all get on with Life.

Re: Conservative views? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 08:42 (#2V8V)

Re: Conservative views? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 08:39 (#2V8T)

Still happens today in 2014 in Australia and in England. It is bad enough in Australia that there was a law passed specifically to prevent forced marriage of minors.

Requiem for Florissant (Score: -1, Offtopic)

by Anonymous Coward in Climb der Waals with gecko-inspired grippers on 2014-11-25 08:32 (#2V8R)

Requiem for the street of West Florissant in Ferguson Missouri.
RIP. Bravely stood and tried to serve the community around.
Now gone.

http://youtu.be/MKWeF5dEI0g

Re: "Conservatism" (Score: 2, Interesting)

by cge@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 07:36 (#2V8Q)

Mikee! I'd almost completely forgotten about you!

Those of you unfamiliar with them might find Mikee's maps for the old Linux crossfire rpg enlightening. Apart from being horribly buggy, they have "views" that were certainly never mainstream spread throughout them. Female characters have ridiculous, puerile dialogue, bizarre references to torturing feminists and being rewarded with child brides abound... the whole thing seemed completely unhinged.

I decided not to vote on A.C. submissions anymore.... (Score: 1)

by tanuki64@pipedot.org in Debian excludes game due to author's views on women. on 2014-11-25 06:27 (#2V8P)

....but I change this decision now. Negative votes are still possible.

Now that it's on in missori... (Score: -1, Troll)

by Anonymous Coward in Climb der Waals with gecko-inspired grippers on 2014-11-25 05:49 (#2V8N)

Will debian exclude you if you make disparaging remarks about looters?

The already do if you make disparaging remarks about women:
http://slashdot.org/submission/4008795/debian-excludes-game-due-to-authors-views-on-women

Re: Conservative views? (Score: -1, Troll)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 05:40 (#2V8M)

Feminists should be killed.

Re: Conservative views? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 05:39 (#2V8K)

No white countries. Not one.
And a minor isn't a child.
A child is a child.
A minor is a young adult 1/2 the time.

Re: Why do you agree with debian's decision. (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 05:15 (#2V8H)

Please stop feeding the troll. Our only dyed in the wool troll surely, who has been fed enough today.

3 x (1680x1050) (Score: 1)

by Anonymous Coward in My desktop monitor resolution: on 2014-11-25 04:33 (#2V8F)

Three Dell monitors in a row, each of which is 1680x1050, running on two video cards under FreeBSD 10.1. I guess that makes 5040x1050.

Re: Why do you agree with debian's decision. (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 04:29 (#2V8E)

Why is it so important to you that Debian include this package? In what universe do they owe that to you? They can reject a program for any reason they want. To say otherwise is totalitarian.

Re: MikeeUSA ? TBI or psychotic breakdown? (Score: 2, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 03:21 (#2V8D)

Yes! Pipedot has made it. We now have our own trolls.

Re: MikeeUSA ? TBI or psychotic breakdown? (Score: -1, Troll)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 03:15 (#2V8C)

Hopefully he killed the wife, and possibly those women who took out restraining orders on him.

Reiser did the right thing. Bless him.

Re: Why do you agree with debian's decision. (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 03:14 (#2V8B)

So reject a program because you don't like the author.
Yep.

Bet you want ReiserFS removed from the kernel as well.
Your position is not defensible. You are a totalitarian.
The opensource movement wouldn't have gotten anywhere if
it was started today with people like you.

46" tv (Score: 1)

by pete@pipedot.org in My desktop monitor resolution: on 2014-11-25 01:19 (#2V8A)

....ooooh yeaa. gaming and video - only downside is input lag (game-mode only helps so much...)

Re: Why do you agree with debian's decision. (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 00:33 (#2V89)

No, because for the billionth time, he's an asshole. Not for his opinions. I know a few people who firmly believe women should never work, and always defer to men. But, they are always pleasant to talk to and treat everyone with respect. If they had written a program, it would not have been rejected.

Why do you agree with debian's decision. (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 00:28 (#2V88)

If someone asked you to chose which of these banks you would like to do business with:
1) Chase
2) Wells Fargo
3) Vatican
4) Bank of England
5) Valartis
6) LGT
7) Raiffeisen
8) DBS
9) UOB
10) OCBC
11) SPDB

And your answer was "muh dick". Should they say "ah yes, wells fargo it is"?
Why should it be any different if you instead say "some bitch", or an analogue thereof?
(Or in this case "The bank I wish to do business with is "feminists" or "woman", I reject all your preselected options")

Since when has opensource been professional?
It is (or it was, perhaps there was a takeover of some sort) people doing things for free as a hobby in their spare time.

The fact of the matter is the program in question does what it was programmed to do:
It allows you to virtually gamble in a text console. It even includes a stockmarket.
It doesn't crash and doesn't have any known vulnerabilities.
Debian rejected it because the author's opinions are in opposition to SJWs opinions. That's it.

Re: MikeeUSA ? TBI or psychotic breakdown? (Score: 2, Interesting)

by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-25 00:00 (#2V87)

Yeah... My old company had to let a guy go after a break, post divorce. He took out his revenge on women at work, in a profane and disgusting way. They took out a restraining order on him ( or so I was told).

Re: MikeeUSA ? TBI or psychotic breakdown? (Score: -1, Flamebait)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 22:23 (#2V85)

Slaves in the south weren't so keen on working hard either.
That guy at your workplace needs to pull a Hans Reiser.

Re: But what about his code? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 22:04 (#2V84)

From that reply my guess would be Yes. There goes the neighborhood.

Re: MikeeUSA ? TBI or psychotic breakdown? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 21:56 (#2V83)

I have worked with a victim of the latter for years. Turned a hard working IT expert into a slacking sarcastic depressive moron who has trouble now just getting to work. His negativity soaks the workplace bringing everyone down while he outwardly appears to be your standard friendly middle aged IT guy. He puts more effort into avoiding work and hurting others than actually work. Many times tasks which should take hours drag on for weeks. None of his friends can believe he acts like this at work. He is a broken man. Losing his house along with just about everything else cracked him. Probably the straw which broke the camels back was his wife's successful claim against his future earnings. He kills productivity. Our own version of Wally.

MikeeUSA ? TBI or psychotic breakdown? (Score: 1)

by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 21:20 (#2V82)

Anyone know his backstory? Is he truly trolling everyone ? Did he suffer a Traumatic Brain injury? Wen't through a nasty divorce?

Whatever his back story. I've seen the latter two transform people, from well adjusted men, to violently anti woman. The guy needs help. Like call the nearest in patient and get him forcibly admitted kind of help.

Re: spelling (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 18:49 (#2V81)

Yes, I should have previewed the post. I forgot that hitting ENTER twice resulted in no space at all.

As for the subject, I suppose you're right. Internet points for all!

Re: spelling (Score: 1)

by wootery@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 18:43 (#2V80)

Subject should be Spelling, not spelling.

There should be a space between the first period and the T.

Re: Always wondered (Score: 1)

by tanuki64@pipedot.org in Scientists Determined to Clone Woolly Mammoths on 2014-11-24 15:03 (#2V7Z)

Bad? Depends on whom you ask.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/8972949/Dutch-cannibal-TV-presenters-insist-they-did-eat-each-others-flesh.html
http://www.odditycentral.com/funny/dutch-television-hosts-to-eat-each-others-flesh-on-live-tv.html

Some just call it 'crazy'. Above reality....
... below fiction:
The idea of lab grown human flesh for consumption isn't new:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiviral_%28film%29

I must say, I am curious, but definitely not that curious. Pass.

Re: "Conservatism" (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 14:56 (#2V7Y)

I feel like we're missing something here. His troll post resembles many reactions I've seen over the years, which come almost exclusively after some other sequence of events has brought things to that point. And what I've seen just of the way Debian does things would make me all the more surprised if he hadn't already been goaded on by 2005 with completely irrelevant issues that had nothing to do with his code.

This is all presumption on my part, but the point is, there are gaps to fill in if we want the full story.

Re: But what about his code? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 14:54 (#2V7X)

Hi MikeeUSA! Having a nice day?

Re: That's what you get for free (Score: -1, Troll)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 14:52 (#2V7W)

Please, "progressives". Anyone as perpendicularly opposed to free speech as that crowd isn't deserving of the term progressive, and should happily accept the title of totalitarian. They're the same camp as the "feminists" who have done more to undermine women's progress than centuries of institutionalized misogyny could have hoped for in their parroted group-babble.

While I won't condone hits (frankly, it'd undermine his legitimacy), I would agree that he made the wrong choice by stepping down. This juvenile attitude that everyone should agree or be trampled under the herd has been the MO for an ever growing body of spoiled children turned spoiled adults for decades now, and really needs to have its momentum turned around.

Re: But what about his code? (Score: 1)

by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 14:51 (#2V7V)

Ok, now I think it *should* be included in Debian. With the appropriate patch that replaces all the misogynic BS, with something that encourages women coders.

Re: Always wondered (Score: 1)

by richardnixon@pipedot.org in Scientists Determined to Clone Woolly Mammoths on 2014-11-24 14:45 (#2V7T)

Is it "bad" that whenever I hear about this artificial meat that's being grown in labs, I hope "people-flavored" is one of the meats that makes it to market?

Re: "Conservatism" (Score: 2, Informative)

by billshooterofbul@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 14:42 (#2V7S)

1) No. This is Debian Policy:

https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/

Nothing in there about the views of the upstream author, only about the actual license of the software.

2) The guy's an asshole first and foremost. While I wouldn't agree with them if he made them in a more civil manner, I think a nicer presentation of them would be tolerated by more people. I don't agree with many people's opinions on politics outside of the free software movement. I would fight for the inclusion of his work, if it were meaningful ( and not a game), and he were not an asshole. As an upstream, I believe it would be very difficult for anyone to deal with him, especially a female.

Re: But what about his code? (Score: 2, Informative)

by tanuki64@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 10:06 (#2V7R)

If this is your only complaint. It is called the Hungarian notation. Though often misunderstood and misused, it is still widely used in many projects and hardly a sign for coding skills or the lack of them.

Re: Conservative views? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 09:41 (#2V7Q)

Once upon a time? It still happens today. Some countries have specific laws and protocols to prevent minors from being forced to marry overseas then returned home afterward "legally" married

Re: Debian has changed, free software has changed. (Score: -1)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 09:00 (#2V7P)

Debian was awesome before the SJWs took over.

Re: Something missing? Something changed? (Score: -1, Troll)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:59 (#2V7N)

Author hates feminists.
Debian loves feminists.

Re: But what about his code? (Score: 1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:58 (#2V7M)

Assist!

Re: Notice (Score: -1, Troll)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:57 (#2V7K)

Feminism is having it's killing spree in afghanistan.
It allready has it's jailing spree for decades.

Re: Conservative views? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:56 (#2V7J)

Once upon a time men were allowed to marry female children.
Then a liberal group, feminists, had that outlawed.
This occurred from the late 1800s till the early 2000s, by then
it was complete the world over.

The first position was conservative.
The second, newer position, was and is liberal.

Re: Conservative views? (Score: -1, Flamebait)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:54 (#2V7H)

Go read the old testament.
That's conservative.
Not what you're claiming is conservative.

Re: But what about his code? (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:26 (#2V7G)

Har har. Reminds me of a uni professor, whom I now suspect could barely code, who required all ints to be prefixed with I_ and constants with C_ etc etc

Re: Notice (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:23 (#2V7F)

Oh good. So glad. The whole thread took a dove right after Hitler was mentioned. You are right. Let us move on.

Re: Notice (Score: -1, Troll)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:19 (#2V7E)

Wait.. what? Islam = muslim .. so...

Re: But what about his code? (Score: 1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 08:17 (#2V7D)

Perhaps he is attempting to win a position...on the front page of thedailywtf.com

Re: Notice (Score: -1)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-24 07:43 (#2V7C)

This discussion is not over.

Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 1)

by tanuki64@pipedot.org in FreeBSD 10.1 Released! on 2014-11-23 21:40 (#2V73)

Actually I am mildly interested. Mildly = not enough to get my lazy *** up and actually install it, but follow with interest BSD articles.

Re: FreeBSD is buggy, sadly (Score: 2, Insightful)

by zafiro17@pipedot.org in FreeBSD 10.1 Released! on 2014-11-23 21:20 (#2V72)

I'm just glad they're putting any work into the console at all. syscons is really dated, sadly and this will set up FreeBSD for bigger and better. I'm seeing a HUGE surge in interest in the BSDs suddenly, and not just because of systemd (watch out, because the FreeBSD team isn't necessarily averse to something like systemd, although probably not systemd itself). I think all the recent cruftiness has led to some Linux fatigue: pulseaudio, btrfs, Gnome3, Wayland, Unity, endlessly-shifting APIs, etc. FreeBSD might be buggy in this edition but it's still pretty darned conservative by any Linux distro's standards, and that's not a bad thing at a time when suddenly many people are taking a renewed interest in alternatives to their favorite Linux distro. Who knows, maybe there will be some converts. Lord knows FreeBSD is a lot more approachable than the other BSDs.

Re: Free To Be Arrogant (Score: -1, Offtopic)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-23 16:02 (#2V70)

What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

Freedom is damaging? To whom? Politicians and bureaucrats?

Re: Free To Be Arrogant (Score: 0)

by Anonymous Coward in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-23 15:43 (#2V6Z)

which is very good... I mean come on, what you read on the libertarian party website is straight up crazy and damaging.
and fwiw, centrist non-feminist here.

Re: Notice (Score: 1)

by tanuki64@pipedot.org in Opensource game rejected from Debian for authors' social beliefs on 2014-11-23 14:09 (#2V6Y)

Even more correct: Not every women is a feminist and not every feminist is a women.

And as the other A.C. noted:
I believe the judicious comparison would be that you can hate islamists and not be a racist.
I agree. Feminism, islamism, nazism are all radical inhuman "superiority" cults. There are only two differences: One difference is who is deemed superior and who is deemed the subhuman. The other is that some already had their killing spree, while others are still dreaming about it. IMHO they all should be shunned exactly the same.
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