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It is possible to be a feminist and not be a women so distintion noted. Can you hate muslims and not be a racist?

It's hard for me to see how these views could be described as "conservative," unless you predefine that term to mean "sexist and/or generally distasteful." In any case, it seems clear to me that he was banned not for his views, but his socially poisonous rhetoric. There's a pretty clear line between "feminism is ultimately a bad thing" and "I hate you all, your group is terrible, and women are worthless scum, and by the way you're all also probably whores." The first might be described as a "conservative view"; the second is poisonous to all useful discourse (not to mention bad and wrong, but that's opinion). If this nastiness affected his code, then as someone who could reasonably be described as "conservative" on some issues, I have no problem with it being excluded. Maybe a cleansed fork would be possible.

I just don't respect it here. If one checks out 'Tanuki64' on Slushdot, one can easily see, that very often I say exactly the same things. So there really is no way to confuse me with a geek, feminist SJW. The difference is, I don't pour the hate slurry everywhere I go, but where it belongs: As response of misandric feminazi propaganda, which nowadays is far too often given a platform on Slushdot. I was happy, that |. was free of this sickness. Though I expected and expect SJW subversion attempts as soon as |. gets more popular, I am surprised and disgusted by this totally unprovoked trolling spree from 'the other side'. And yes... guilty of voting 'Troll' for most of his posts.

Initially I voted to have this article here and apologize for it. I had no idea what was behind it. From the initial wording of the article it wasn't obvious that it was no |. material and as Debian user it looked interesting enough to me.

For me this topic is done now. With one small disclaimer, which I cannot and never want to hold back in this context:
Hating feminists is not hating women or misogyny. Just as hating nazis isn't racism. The distinction between feminists and women should be always made.

I respect his right to hate females. I do not respect him for his stance. I believe everyone should be judged on their code, methodology, output, coherence, bugs, elegance, but not on their alignment. Take it from evil POV: if ISIL released a worthy successor FPS to the reigning champions of today I would congratulate then and give it a whirl. Just imagine it.. Jihadi Master - America Dies Now. Kill the unbelievers, take their women, raid their riches, conquer the World. Just because they are crazy assed loons with an invisible man inferiority complex is no reason alone to outright diss their potential positive contributions to humanity.

Ok, I wasted my time reading the link and it's not helping your case at all. In fact, it justifies my initial impression...

Nope. They just don't like your hate speech, Mikee... Even if you had a point, you've already lost your audience by the time you make it. Next time, try this first: Don't introduce yourself as a woman-hating asshole.

If you don't like the mob rule approach wherein liberal group think wins out every time, then frankly, I'm not sure what your interest in Debian is in the first place. Sure, FOSS is full of freedom, and nobody is stopping this developer from having his game work on Debian, but at the same time, it's a bit silly to get upset because your cat won't go fetch a frisbee.

Redhat is for corporations for whom software design is to be dictated by workday necessities, Debian (and to a lesser extent a good number of the other major distros, both derived from it and otherwise) for users who want to have everyone vote on what goes into their system (so that it's fair...or something), and Slackware/BSD/Gentoo for those who just want the basics packaged such that they can save some time assembling their system as they see fit, withsout worrying about whether or not some other fuckwits on the internet would approve.

People have reasons for which one they pick, but I've seen a whole lot of people for whatever reason refusing to consider leaving Debian while at the same time raging about the way they do just about everything, as if they don't have other choices. When Debian starts pulling the kind of sketchy shit that the Redhat crowd pulled with systemd and Gnome (among other instances), I'll give a little weight to some of the concerns, but until then, it really just sounds like a lot of whining by people who can't be bothered to just grab down a FREE ISO image and install a system they actually like. Can't think of much of a more liberal attitude than that.

There's plenty of place: In your own third party repository. Debian isn't iOS/WinRT...just because the official distro doesn't include software doesn't somehow exclude it from being used by anyone.

That all said, this is part of the issue with the big central repositories trying to have nearly everything all in one centralized place. Nobody would EVER make this kind of fuss over something not being thrown into the main Slackware repositories, because instead of trying to do everything, they focus on maintaining the core, and making things rock solid there (which is why it's one of the only major distros that didn't rush to move away from sysvinit, as Slackware's BSD style init scripts can't really be called a mess to begin with), rather than trying to package up everything and ending up with tons of packages that may or may not actually be tailored to play nice with the rest of the system (anyone remember how fun it use to be to work with multiarch support on Debian a few years ago, or perhaps the state Pulseaudio was in on Debian and associated distros?). It wouldn't be the first distro to crumble after spreading too thin trying to support anything and everything, and considering that it's the biggest defense against Redhat taking a much bigger foothold in the Linux market, I'd have to insist that that would be a terrible eventuality that should be diligently avoided. Perhaps modularizing repositories such that each major official branch sticks to its own specialization, or encouraging more independent repository use rather than leaving them to the domain of power users.

As usual, excess centralization makes things cumbersome and unwieldy. While I won't discount the extent to which the big central repositories have played making things easier to new users, it's time to swing the pendulum back in the other direction a bit while keeping the gains so that good design isn't being sacrificed in the process of catering to the needs of people who just don't have time or inclination to be *nix nerds. It is harder than just throwing "RTFM" around at everyone, but considering that at least the big distros like Debian seem to be trying to attract people that aren't *nix nerds, it's pretty obviously a task worth doing.

That is an interesting link, actually...

Mikhail Kvaratskhelia (aka 'mikeeeUSA', aka serveral other aliases) is what constitutional lawyers sometimes call a werewolf - the most unappealing possible victim. He is a creepy, repellent, misogynistic crank, given to uttering threats of violent death against female Linux hackers, and quite possibly clinically insane. [...] To judge by the letter and the reports of his past behavior, he is a vile piece of scum; if he were to threaten harm to Ms. Eicher in my presence, I would cheerfully shoot him. -esr

MikeeUSA, is that you?

Fuck you cunt. Hopefully you won't be forever.

If the code works it works. What's wrong with conditional statements? That's the building block of everything. Guess you don't know that it's all compiled down to machine code and whatever you write in your higher level language will resemble that on the iron.

Conservatives that own businesses should retaliate
by firing any free-software advocate from their positions?
One can only hope

It's the geek-feminists who are forcing their views, or rather, disallowing, banning, deleting other views.

This is how all progressives achieve their goals for society.
Eventually they have their detractors speech declared hate speech and have them imprisoned.

An opensource casino video game was recently posted to
the debian bug tracker as a request for packaging, as
is the standard method for pursuing such things in debian.

The bug was quickly closed, tagged as "won't fix"
The reason given by one of the debian developers
alluded to the authors anti-feminist views and his
advocacy of them:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770314

The piece of software in question is licensed
under the GPL and is one of the only of it's
kind for linux (ascii-art console slot machine software)

Is professing pro female liberty politics now a hard requirement
for being allowed to contribute to opensource?

The answer: Yes.

Notice how the geek-feminists and SJW fucks are labeling everything they don't like as a "Troll"

fuck you cunt.
I see the worthless geek-feminists have arrived.

If you agree with the herd you're golden no matter what.
You go against it, there's no place for you or anything you make.
(And are a dick too)

Opensource was much better when feminists, women in general (and their demands to be treated special (women are not special)), were made to feel unwelcome.
Before the Codes of Conduct and the corporate takeover of the thing.

Notice it's an "eq" not an ==
That stands for the symbol that has been chosen. Perhaps A, B, C, D should have been used instead
to allow sufferance for you OECD disorder?

Also, isn't it obvious by the variable name lvrstart2 that this is a saved value from a previous spin
IE: "the symbol on screen, on reel 2, is symbol 10, thusly, display symbol 10 when we get to the
ascii-art output routine"
Play the game, it works fine. What is your problem?

Your problem is the author, what he believes, what he's said.
You would have never complained about a block of if-thens (common in programming)
in anything a co-patriot of yours has created. You never would have looked.
There's more than one way to do things. But in your mind, YOUR way is the ONLY way
And ANY man that opposes you you get kicked out (ex: Ted Walther in Debian), or
if they aren't part of your organization you get their work deleted
(esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1310) or you make sure it is not included (now).

libertarianism FOSS-style is dead.
There is only leftist left in the FOSS community now.
The libertarians were kicked out around the mid 2000s (or just went away).

They also had the authors code deleted from the internet completely some years ago, you can read about it here:
esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1310

Nope. Debian-women force their views on everyone in Debian. You must accept the ideals of feminism or you are not welcome in Debian. This was a change.They have kicked men out that were opposed to debian-women, such as Ted Walther. Then they deleted and rejected software from the repos, like "hot girls", because it didn't jive with their ideals of feminism and respect for women.

Debian-Women are who push their views on everyone. They don't even allow you to have software they don't approve of through apt. They are censors, scum.

Nope. Prints out when you, being asked which game you wish to play (type a number) instead enter "woman".

Fuck you cunt. It is an opensource casino game and was around before you joined the movement and corrupted it with you social politics and forcing people out you piece of shit.

There is no poison, it isn't malware. There is a screen that says get rid of women's rights if you chose to enter "woman" into the "which game would you like to play, pick between 1 and 13".

The game functions properly. It does not crash. It can play thousands and thousands of iterations, because it is strictly typed.

OpenBSD has that discipline, SJW's would call him a bastard troll and say OpenBSD doesn't exist and theo has never contributed to opensource.

I am not against fighting, upping skills, collecting armours... would be stupid if I were and still say I like RPGs. But I want logical fights. When I enter a cave, I expect to meet something like a cave bear. But in the video above it looks like the forest was more densely populated with enemies than there are fleas on a mangy street dog.

Another RPG I really loved: Bioshock Infinite. I know, not a typical RPG, but clearly a FPS. However, you collect stuff, you decide to play good or evil, you up skills, sometimes you work together with NPCs... all criteria of a RPG. A really dense story, which never got drowned in excessive fighting. IMHO a perfect mixture of RPG and FPS.

You pretty much have it right there. Most of it is about running around killing stuff, upping skills, collecting new armour sets, trying for the full special sets which usually only random pop from chests. Lots of fun if that is your thing.

I played Baldurs Gate. Within the first couple of levels I picked up Ball Lightning and the rest of the game was a walk through :)
Unlike Diablo 1 / 2 where it took quite a while to get to the point of being able to walk around and trounce anything.

I'm not going to go look again, but there were functions in there that just printed a bunch of drivel to the screen. I think one was a big anti-women vomit-fest, and another was a "graphic" of some sort. Maybe that's what prints out when you win the jackpot.

you keep missing the simple point that the only one forcing their views on anyone, coincidentally was the moron-Mike....if he kept his views to himself like everybody else, his code might have been accepted (quality aside)

theres the herd, and then there is just ignorance, which has no place in educated society.

i didn't see any one there rubbing their views in anyones face, only their refusal to allow someone to do it to them who has often before. don't be a dick is the real lesson.

FreeBSD was once solid and good. 4.x series was really stable and I never experienced any problems. Then they begun with way too big changes and there was not even one version I would not see problems and panics with.

Already from this summery you can see the quality of FreeBSD. I bet they knew the Intel framebuffer did not work for 10.0. Still they shipped it. It is good they got that one working for 10.1, but I wonder what more they did break with this 10.1.

Yes, feel free to mark me as a troll, but I am very disappointed at FreeBSD and this is my experience. Since then I have moved over to OpenBSD. C is an easy language to begin coding in but a super difficult language if you want good quality product. Very few OS has the discipline for that.

Bad. Very bad. I liked Baldur's Gate at the time, which seems to be similar. Now I watched this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBLccW7vpQ

At min 0:40 first fight. Ok, the description says 'speed run', but I stopped after 4:00. In all this time behind almost every bush or tree a new enemy appeared. Most likely it is a 5 minute story game, which is inflated to hrs by senseless fights. I just get bored when I get attacked every three steps. I also don't like it to be send back and forth the same ways... get this, do that...walking for no other reason but to get told: This game is worth x0 hrs playing fun. Witcher was that way.

But I must say.... after Dishonored I am spoiled.... Very hard to satisfy me now.... Damn Arkane Studios :-D

Banning a software submission because you oppose the views and behavior of the submitter is actually one of the more intolerantly conservative things that could happen: Deciding that you've locked on to the secret of the universe and that it gives you the privilege of allowing the means to justify the ends you are convinced the universe wants you to impose on everyone else.

This has everything to do with arrogance. If libertarianism FOSS-style has anything to do with it, it's to demonstrate that people inevitably band together in little cliques to seek their own advantage at the expense of others. Libertarianism offers no countervailing force to buffer the abused from the abusers.

I didn't see any easter eggs, but I didn't look too much anyway. This is priceless though:

} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '4') {
$lvrb4p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '5') {
$lvrb5p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '6') {
$lvrb6p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '7') {
$lvrb7p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '8') {
$lvrb8p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '9') {
$lvrb9p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '10') {
$lvrb10p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '11') {
$lvrb11p = 1;
} elsif ($lvrstart2 eq '12') {
$lvrb12p = 1;

Real clever. Local Variable 12 p??

Have you looked at the code for the casino game? It's as vile as his screeds against women. I would have rejected it based on that alone, quite apart from the embedded poison easter eggs (look at the code -- you'll see what I mean).

In this case "Its" should have been "It's". C'mon people, it's not hard!

How do you feel about Dungeon Siege? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_Siege

Fuck systemd.

systemd? *ducks*

too soon?

The former CEO of Mozilla, who founded the browser, should take out hits on the progressives that ousted him.

That would be justice.

Aren't they scum.

The value of your contribution is weighed on the scale of "social progress".
You can contribute gigabytes and it just "doesn't exist" because you didn't bow and scrape to their idols (women, gays, "transgender", whatever)

Help with the effort, keep submitting to slashdot until it's accepted.

...could you take your ranting to where it belongs? It would fit just perfectly in certain /. articles, where I would love to help you to burn karma as much as I can. Here? Not so much. At least not for now. And certainly not in a mailing list for bugs. Thank you.

Yeah, this is very nice. Just ban whatever package you like based on personal preference. While we're at it, why don't we ban software written by an ex-con or someone who doesn't feed stray cats.

This all happens because it's free. Nobody cares about the actual quality. If this whole get-it-for-free system wasn't in place, these two gentlemen could settle their differences and focus on the incoming money. That is how society outside the open source bubble works. People don't like each other, but still cooperate. Unfortunately, the world is full of anti-social hippies with too much time on their hands, killing off whole branches of industries simply by saying 'I will do it for free'.

If you agree with the herd you're golden no matter what.
You go against it, there's no place for you or anything you make.

Though there's a first for everything, they ban people all the time from the debian mailing lists these days, even for anti-systemd talk. Its their way or no way.

The libertarians that started the free software movement rolling are all gone now, what's left is only social justice warriors who do not take kindly to opposing viewpoints at all.

It was closed as "won't fix". That's as close to a debian-wide policy as one might get without a TC
or GR decision.
As recently as 100 years ago the views expressed were mainstream.
(Or 25 years ago for the deep south)

Since everyone seemed very confused (myself included) I've updated the article to include information about MikeeUSA's afore mentioned "conservative views".

I must also muse that open source projects most frequently have the opposite problem: devs facing no consequences for misbehaving and abusing users.

I cannot find any

Is professing progressive politics now a hard requirement for being allowed to contribute to opensource?

in the given link. Only the answer;

This is code by someone who routinely trolls Debian.....

So from what I see, we a missing huge parts of the story. Anyone able to fill in?

a strange game
the only winning move is not to play.

how about a nice game of chess?